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When i was a kid the neighborhood Grandpa Charlie had Bees i helped him a lot i got all dressed up in a suit . was definitely a joke as it was an adult suit and i was like 11. But i found it very cool. I don't remember it being quite as technical as it is for you but i may have just been young too. But i know Charlie loved when a hive fled to a pine tree and i climbed the tree and laid the branch back at the hive and they did go back to the hive. It made Charlies day i think he had 4 hives if i remember correctly i do remember they were only two layers high. I miss good old Charlie i hadn't thought about him in years
 

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Before 1986 bees were easy, put boxes out, put in bees, harvest honey, done. And back then you had clover, dandelions, fields of flowers, weeds, Now we have mono crops, GMO, roundup kills. We fight mites from Asia, hive beetles from Africa and now another mite coming around that they have no way to control. I will be out of bees before they get here.

And the mites get resistant to the controls we use. One reason I just spent 799 on a OAV Ez pro to treat the mites once a week with the acid. The mites have not become resistant to it. We have been using OAV but we had a wand set up, 5 minutes per hive, which does not sound like a lot but 10 hives takes about 1.5 hours. With the new system, 20 seconds per hive. So we will treat more, every week and hopefully not lose any more hives over winter. I must wear a really good respirator, eye protection because you are standing in a cloud of Acid vaporized. The real danger is to your lungs, breath it in and your lungs will weep become wet and you can not breath.

The bees in Asia have learned how to live with the mites, our bees have not.
 
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In the mean hive yes, we hate doing it but there are times you must. We pinch her, ie quick death.
We will, most likely, try a split first. Sometimes that calms them down. Make the hive smaller and create a second hive.
Sorry for my typo, I meant pinch not pick......and I understand, was just curious.
 
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Before 1986 bees were easy,
NEEDLESS to say that was a bit before 1986 Just a little ..
I know or i should say i have heard how bad it is for honey bees today.. i do remember as a kid being in the fields and recognizing the different bees and wasps which you had stay away from and which were ok so long as you didn't threaten them. The honey bees i didn't have an issue with when it was a handful of them in a bush or flowers. but when it came time to smoke the hives i hid in the suits. Theres another bee about the same size as honey bees that are more blakish and hairy that were so tame we'd play with them they would walk from figer to finger or you could place it in your buddies ear. LOL no matter how many times you handled them when they got in the ear it would make yeah freek out . Oh the memories. thanks for helping to keep the bees thriving addy
 

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When I was a kid walking in the yard with clover blooming almost guaranteed you would get a bee sting. Now if you see a bee on the clover it is a blessing.



Here is a bit of the history of the mites.

More than 300 years after the initial introduction, a beekeeper also imported honey bees (and a very serious problem), perhaps from Brazil, despite a quarantine that had existed for several decades. That person was not the first to break the quarantine; all too often the quarantine had been ignored by others hoping to "improve their strain." Unfortunately, this time the imported bees harbored a voracious parasitic mite, Varroa jacobsoni, soon to populate all contiguous states and Alaska.

In September, 1987, colonies in some hives transported from Florida to Wisconsin experienced colony failure - the first recorded case of Varroa infestation in this country. A spot check around the nation that Fall revealed the presence of Varroa mites already in a dozen states.


The Varroa bee mite (Varroa jacobsoni) was first discovered by A.C. Oudemans in 1904, as a parasite of the Asian honey bee, Apis cerana. In the late 1940s, Through movement of the western honey bee, Apis mellifera, colonies into and out of Asia, Varroa mite became established on honey bees first in Africa and then in Europe. Quickly, it spread around the world. It was first detected in the U.S. in 1987; Mexico and Canada quickly closed their borders to U.S. bees. Varroa has now been in the U.S. for over two decades and a robust history exists in a number of formats.

One reason the mite is so damaging is that it is relatively new to the Western honey bee (Apis mellifera). Most parasites have evolved mechanisms so that they do not kill their hosts, in the long range disadvantageous. Thus, the original host, Apis cerana, is somewhat resistant to predation by mites. However in temperate areas, almost every Apis mellifera colony infested by Varroa will be killed unless there is intervention to reduce the mite population. There is mounting evidence, however, that certain European honey bees and other populations might be somewhat resistant/tolerant and incipient breeding programs exist to cultivate and enhance this trait. At the moment the Russian Honey Bee Breeding Program and those based on removal of mites through colony hygiene are the most promising. Read contributor Randy Oliver’s ideas on the possibility of breeding honey bees more resistant to Varroa now and in the future.
 

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