Building pond in Israel by a Granny!


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Make sure the holes are large enough to not trap other critters. I had a small weave net, it trapped small birds, frogs, poof gone. Now just a wide weave net used.
The holes of the current fence material are definitely large enough for most critters to get through. Since it's in the pond, rather than above it, I'm mostly concerned that the fish can make it through the net in order to come to the surface to eat. No problem there! Even the larger ones swim right through it. A full-sized koi probably couldn't get through it, but once we have fish of that size, I won't need the net. No kingfisher is going to take on a fully-grown koi!
 
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With all your vegetation the low trees etc could you do like I did and encircle the open areas if the pond take away the birds flight patth. Larger birds that is use golf netting
The thing is, I actually want the birds to visit the pond; just not to eat the fish! And kingfishers don't need much of a flight path. They hover just above the surface and dive right in. So far, the underwater fencing seems to be doing the trick. We may have lost one of the new goldfish I bought since putting the fencing in, though I'm not sure it got eaten or died and I just haven't found it. It was an all-white fish, so an easy target for a kingfisher. But so far, so good!
 
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Love the net idea. I have something similar in mind if we run into issues after adding fish. Still trying to determine how to suspend it. Was thinking of drilling eye bolts into the rocks a few inches below water line and supporting it that way.

I like the lily pad idea, too.
After having the ziplock bags of corks get repeatedly dislodged, I finally just drilled holes in the corks and strung them along pieces of bonsai wire, then formed the wires into a ring, with more corks-on-wires forming "spokes" across the ring. This way, I can suspend the fencing from above. I did put in a couple of the floating lily pads, though they don't take a lot of weight. Here's a photo of one of my "corks-on-a-wire" floats:

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After having the ziplock bags of corks get repeatedly dislodged, I finally just drilled holes in the corks and strung them along pieces of bonsai wire, then formed the wires into a ring, with more corks-on-wires forming "spokes" across the ring. This way, I can suspend the fencing from above. I did put in a couple of the floating lily pads, though they don't take a lot of weight. Here's a photo of one of my "corks-on-a-wire" floats:

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Throw some moss or something on them that loves to have there feet wet . Floating island turn a need to a pleasure. I understand the birds to the pond desire we always want more and your right about the king Fisher I know they do not need the area to take off like the hero and osprey do they are the two bag boys in this area. I two would welcome a king to go for the numerous babies I have
 
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Throw some moss or something on them that loves to have there feet wet .

Moss?!? What is this "moss" of which you speak?

Not a thing in our climate, except tiny colonies on the rocks during the winter.

Floating island turn a need to a pleasure.

I'll figure out some way to make it look better.

I understand the birds to the pond desire we always want more and your right about the king Fisher I know they do not need the area to take off like the hero and osprey do they are the two bag boys in this area. I two would welcome a king to go for the numerous babies I have

I'm enjoying watching the birds in general, and even the kingfishers are a pleasure to see, once I know they can't get to my fish. I may have lost another of the smaller ones over the past 24 hours, but can't be sure.
 
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Moss?!? What is this "moss" of which you speak?

Not a thing in our climate, except tiny colonies on the rocks during the winter.



I'll figure out some way to make it look better.



I'm enjoying watching the birds in general, and even the kingfishers are a pleasure to see, once I know they can't get to my fish. I may have lost another of the smaller ones over the past 24 hours, but can't be sure.
OK ok I get it I'm thinking like a Yankee. I'll put on my yankapour. Hack job in spelling I know. Take some dang palms grind them up mix with super glue and wha la clumps of greenery
 
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OK ok I get it I'm thinking like a Yankee. I'll put on my yankapour. Hack job in spelling I know. Take some dang palms grind them up mix with super glue and wha la clumps of greenery
eVEN IF YOU go to a stream or pond i know there's not a lot. and in the shade there's no moss? i'll mail you some it will be your favorite plant.
 
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eVEN IF YOU go to a stream or pond i know there's not a lot. and in the shade there's no moss? i'll mail you some it will be your favorite plant.
Well, it can be found around streams and such. In fact, we visited the Banias falls two weeks back, and you should have seen the moss and ferns! Stunning! However, it's a nature preserve, so no taking any moss home. I may be able to find some at the Yarkon River park, not all that far from me. Just been too busy tour guiding and pond building and book editing and book writing and house cleaning and opening doors for cats....
 
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If you ignore them long enough, some cats will learn to open the door themselves. They do make quite a racket before taking on the challenge, though. And then you might wish they hadn't learned.
Right you are! We had one who could open any door in the place (and would even jiggle the keys in the door, having figured out that if the door handle didn't do the trick, the keys had something to do with it). He would also slide open the windows to go in or out.
 
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Well, I finally got the rocks for the peninsula set, including the turtle rock! For those who have followed the long drawn-out saga of this build, you'll remember that one of the first stones I pulled out of the hole while digging was a huge bit of limestone with a lot of character, aka the "turtle rock".

That rock sat on the edge of my patio for some 20 years. During that time all kinds of things happened: the kids grew up and went into the army and got out of the army and got married and moved away. I quit my job and published a book and started a home business. I left my police unit and joined a reserve unit. In short, life happened, while the pond very definitively did not happen. And all that while, the turtle rock sat in the garden, getting tripped over, gardened around, and occasionally heaved out of the way.

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And now, finally, the turtle rock is where I meant for it to go since the day I dug it up! Along side it are the two huge boulders that Muhammad the tractor driver brought me the day he cleared brush from the vacant lot. I wasn't sure I'd even be able to budge those two bruisers, but I was able to roll them out of the hole they were in and out to the path, where they could be eased on to the hand truck (one at a time, of course) and rolled around the pond to the shallow end. At that point, it was just a matter of dumping them right off the hand truck and into the water. Once in the pond, I was able to heft them around to where I wanted them.

Meanwhile, the Iron Net Air Defense System has been deployed over the corridor between the deep zone and the waterfall, giving the fish safe passage. I'll be putting more water lilies in the shallow end to give them a bit more cover there.

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The fencing is unwieldy and has a tendency to bend and buckle rather than lay flat, but I've mostly gotten it hidden now. One of those problems whose resolution involves nothing more drastic than throwing a clump of water hyacinth at it! I could use a few more such problems!

Meanwhile, the kingfishers continue to strafe the pond. Here's a photo of a pair of them from my office window (sorry for the poor quality). As an aside, I love how the giant flower spike of the century plant they're sitting on is echoed in the comms antenna in the distance!

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More updates to come!
 
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I think you have or will be cornering the market in greenery around there. No wonder the birds have targeted you
 
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I'm very impressed there granny I don't know to many skilled guys who could have done better in as short a time . I'd like to put money down on you to out swim the Trans guy here in the US who winning all the woman's event me think if he did win you'd pull out a glock and fix things right .
 
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Well, I finally got the rocks for the peninsula set, including the turtle rock! For those who have followed the long drawn-out saga of this build, you'll remember that one of the first stones I pulled out of the hole while digging was a huge bit of limestone with a lot of character, aka the "turtle rock".

That rock sat on the edge of my patio for some 20 years. During that time all kinds of things happened: the kids grew up and went into the army and got out of the army and got married and moved away. I quit my job and published a book and started a home business. I left my police unit and joined a reserve unit. In short, life happened, while the pond very definitively did not happen. And all that while, the turtle rock sat in the garden, getting tripped over, gardened around, and occasionally heaved out of the way.

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And now, finally, the turtle rock is where I meant for it to go since the day I dug it up! Along side it are the two huge boulders that Muhammad the tractor driver brought me the day he cleared brush from the vacant lot. I wasn't sure I'd even be able to budge those two bruisers, but I was able to roll them out of the hole they were in and out to the path, where they could be eased on to the hand truck (one at a time, of course) and rolled around the pond to the shallow end. At that point, it was just a matter of dumping them right off the hand truck and into the water. Once in the pond, I was able to heft them around to where I wanted them.

Meanwhile, the Iron Net Air Defense System has been deployed over the corridor between the deep zone and the waterfall, giving the fish safe passage. I'll be putting more water lilies in the shallow end to give them a bit more cover there.

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The fencing is unwieldy and has a tendency to bend and buckle rather than lay flat, but I've mostly gotten it hidden now. One of those problems whose resolution involves nothing more drastic than throwing a clump of water hyacinth at it! I could use a few more such problems!

Meanwhile, the kingfishers continue to strafe the pond. Here's a photo of a pair of them from my office window (sorry for the poor quality). As an aside, I love how the giant flower spike of the century plant they're sitting on is echoed in the comms antenna in the distance!

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More updates to come!
absolutely a wonderful pond, well done!
 
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She's nothing like my grandma when she found a snapping turtle in the garage addition at my parents house when I was a kid I found her swinging the handle of the shovel at the turttle
 
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absolutely a wonderful pond, well done!
Thank you! Still a ways to go, but it's beginning to look a lot more finished. Getting those rocks placed was a major milestone, given how central that little peninsula (or island, actually) is to the design (not to mention how big those rocks are!).

Now I just need to finish the stream and then gravel in both pond and stream. That didn't get done before filling it up, as I didn't yet have all the rocks. But the main problem is that every bucket load of gravel has to be washed and gone through to pick out the sharp flint. Takes bloody forever! But it is getting there.
 
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Thank you! Still a ways to go, but it's beginning to look a lot more finished. Getting those rocks placed was a major milestone, given how central that little peninsula (or island, actually) is to the design (not to mention how big those rocks are!).

Now I just need to finish the stream and then gravel in both pond and stream. That didn't get done before filling it up, as I didn't yet have all the rocks. But the main problem is that every bucket load of gravel has to be washed and gone through to pick out the sharp flint. Takes bloody forever! But it is getting there.
I used a medium sized tote filled with water as a washing tub, drilled holes in a plastic bucket, and put the gravel in it, used it as a sieve to wash the gravel. I think the process used less water than using a hose. When the tote water was very muddy, I emptied it in the garden. I haven't thought of a way to make your flint picking problem easier. Perhaps a flint picking party?
 
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I used a medium sized tote filled with water as a washing tub, drilled holes in a plastic bucket, and put the gravel in it, used it as a sieve to wash the gravel. I think the process used less water than using a hose. When the tote water was very muddy, I emptied it in the garden. I haven't thought of a way to make your flint picking problem easier. Perhaps a flint picking party?
That would be a great way to wash the stuff were it not for all the bloody flint (and broken stones, which are equally sharp).

For now, I've set up a "wet sifting" station similar to the type used in archaeological digs. A mesh frame made from bonsai potting mesh sits on an old plastic wheelbarrow. Dump a bucket full of gravel out on the mesh, squirt it with the hose enough to be able to discern the flint and start sorting. Each bucket load takes about 20 minutes to go through, so it's definitely going to take a long time to gravel in the whole pond.

I've got guests coming for Shabbat this week. Guess what we're going to be doing right up until candle lighting! <bwa-ha-ha!>
 
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Well, I've had a setback, though not one directly connected to the pond. Late last night, I heard a sharp crack and then a loud crash. I thought part of our pergola had come down, but then on the way downstairs to check it out, I realized that it was probably part of the olive tree that had fallen. Sure enough, I found that fully half the olive tree had split and fallen, taking out most of our beautiful lime tree as it came down. Part of it did land in the pond, but evidently no damage done there. Note: this is why olive trees are kept small! The wood is incredibly heavy and this tree was absolutely covered with growing fruit. So much for this years harvest!

I've spent most of a very hot day out with both of my chainsaws working on getting the branches down to manageable size. The entire garden is full of olive branches, leaves, and twigs. The lime tree can be saved (I hope) but it's going to be a couple of years before it's as shapely as it was before. As for the olive tree, I'm going to have to figure out how to prune down the remaining half, as that part is going to come down too if nothing is done. The part where I'd need to prune is way too high for my pole saw. Ugh!

Meanwhile, the pond water is back to murky peasoup, after a period when it had cleared up to the point where I could see the bottom of the deep end. I may not see most of my fish again until I can finally get the bog built. On the bright side, I do get to see the larger fish, as they've taken to coming into the intake bay to munch on something.
 

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