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    Ava

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    Thank you for all the info! The pond is inside a screened pool. And I also have tarp thingy above the pond so it doesn’t get too hot. I live in Florida.

    When you say potted water lilies or lotus...what does that mean? How do I pot them and still grow in the water? I have no idea about plants and pond. I just keep the water clean. Thank goodness I figured that out. I really have no idea what I am doing. Lolll
     
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    I agree not all koi are plant eaters cause I had koi and plants for years without an issue. The only time my koi ate the water lilies is when the pond was renovated, I'm thinking it's because the liner was new and had no algae on it
     
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    When you buy water lilies they come in pots. You can grow them right in the pot they come in, but they will quickly outgrow the smallish pots. At the very least, they need to be divided and repotted every other year.

    Here's an illustration of where various plants can grow in a pond:

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    If you don't have shelves or shallow areas in your pond, you can create them with crates under the water, or, like @sissy suggested create plant pockets that you can hang from the side. In your case it would be a bit more difficult because you have a very formal edge - no rocks to hide or camouflage things. So you may need to get a little more creative if you want marginals!

    Lotuses are a bit trickier. Typically you buy the rhizome and grow them in pots filled with clay soil or plain clay kitty litter. A Google search will yield lots of info on that. You can sometimes find them already growing in a pot - we found a pretty white one this past spring already potted and with aerial leaves, but it was pricey.
     
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    Wow! Thank you so much for all the info!
     
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    That's the perfect dedicated joi pond. Mine is koi dedicated and I have no plants either as the koi are the attraction. I a pond of 6000 gallons and 5 feet deep they will likely grow fast with exception of genetics. I have one black koi who scavengers off the bottom, rarely make an appearance while the other large beauties have feeding frenzies on top. He stays small, maybe 12" where as other are 2 feet or more.

    If I were you, take care of your water, not your koi. The ammonia, pH, Kh, & nitrites are the extremely important parameters to watch. Then comes the others such as nitrates, phosphates, oxygen level, etc. Probably left something out as I'm half asleep. The water quality is the lifeline to fish who literally are never sick, never get bacterial or fungal infections etc. I haven't had to treat my pond in years or any fish in particular. Read, read & read some more. I assume there is a good UV about 50 watts or so?

    What type of filtration and setup do you have? Bio filter, skimmer, main drain? Looks amazing so I doubt they skimmed on the essentials.
     
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    I believe it is a bio filter. There is a huge bin with a lid and there and a bunch of filter like stuff in there. I really don’t know exactly. A couple of times a year we take them out and clean them and rinse off. I did have a guy install a UV light for me. The woman I bought the house from bred and sold koi fish. She told me that she can fit up to 100 koi in the pond. I only have 9 koi and 3 algae eating fish. Plecos I believe they are called.
     
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    All sounds good. You've got a Mechanical/biofilter. I assume you do some periodic water changes? What you don't want is 100 koi ... Lol ... As they grow, you'll be overcrowded but the previous owner was breeding so the koi were small and never reached a large enough size most likely to create overcrowding and oxygen or ammonia problems. That's an assumption. You must have a main drain as a return to your filter. Th50 or e Plecostomus btw are tropical. They don't take well to salt and since you're in FL, they're probably weather well assuming your temps don't drop down into the 50 or 60's .... Enjoy!
     
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