Picture of my Hybrid Dutch Aquascaped tank.

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    Beautiful!

    This was my old low-maintenance tank with native minnows, dace and darters:
     

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    DutchMuch Lord Of The Aquascapes!

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    Thank you, nice tank ;)
    Is that vallisneria gigantea?
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    DutchMuch Lord Of The Aquascapes!

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    The place I bought get it from did not specify the species, but I think it was, because they grew to five-feet long.
     
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    very nice eyecandy , my koi will love to eat ur garden lol jk , what if u operate this tank in sunlight ? pros cons and saving?
    yes ur rite actually i have done calculations long ago , there isnt any fish that breeds easily can make any business , specialty where i live , common fishes like shubunken , chicilids , guppies are too cheap , guppies & young chiclids are sold in dozens here in wholesale shops , no way we can compete there price , fishes which are expensive are same way hard to breed and takes long time to grow. so i think in fish farming only way to do is in very huge farms or from using scientific methods of breeding .

    plants are relatively expensive here too , altho some species can be found in lakes rivers if searched for but most of them in market are imported and less in quantity so i think u have chosen rite thing .
     
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    DutchMuch Lord Of The Aquascapes!

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    Algae growth, indirect light, not saving because you'll spend more on Co2 preventing the algae, cant think of any pros.
     
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    Those are very nice looking plants.
    I have a planted tank myself with just a few in it. It was supposed to be a
    "no maintenance/ low tech" tank, but I have a hard time getting the plants to get good growth. I just don't have the time to put into trimming and making sure everything is where it should be. probably tear it down and just get a few fake ones
     
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    DutchMuch Lord Of The Aquascapes!

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    This is were a lot of people give up, because they don't address issues.
    What plants do you have?
    Lighting? (link if possible but if not its ok)
    Do you dose any fertilizers? micro and macros? regime to this?
    maintenance?
    Inhabitants?
    substrate?
     
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    46 gal bowfront
    Dirt with black sand cap
    2xT5 36" lights 6500k, on timer for 8 hrs.
    Annubias, Amazon swords, ancharis, and another I can't remember.
    Water change very rarely, maybe every 2 months, use Osmocote pellets pushes down
    in sand with water change.
    Canister filter Fluval 305
    2 Lg Angels, 2 clowns, 2 yoyo coaches, 2 small bristlenose,1 large common pleco, 2 parties.
    Tank has been set up 2 yrs this July.
    Things were doing well then I had a bad black algae outbreak about 8-9 months ago, all my plants got covered with algae. They really haven't recovered. I did change the bulbs just a few months ago, did a good cleaning, Osmocote pellets and the bulbs and new growth started, but things still don't look that great.
    I did a lot of research and watch a bunch of videos on the low maintenance tanks, I guess they do more work than they show.
     
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    DutchMuch Lord Of The Aquascapes!

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    you know what kind? Also a FTS would be great and helpful!
    do 50% a week, also I recommend you read dianna walstads books for more research on no tech tanks.
    nice!
    clown loaches?
    Rehome asap.
     
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    i meant just use natural light how ever is needed , can b in shade etc as desired ? im just wondering .
    i dont know but i noticed plants grow fast in pure sunlight , i have one aquarium with few plants under shelter dark shade but its outside , i dont have much issue of algae except on the glass.

    i cant have plants /in my pond but they grow 3 times faster in pond , can b direct sunlight or depth or fish waste fertilizer ? my fishes are evil they even ate my water lily lol i will have a portion in pond for plants soon where bigger fishes cant enter , may b by net or rocks .

    tell us more about it how u takecare of them .
     
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    The one I like was substratesource and the green habitat, which I think the same one you like?

    Do you use heater?

    I was fighting with blackbeard algae so I got 4 Siamese algea eater but now since there's no algae for them to eat they've been eating ALL my plants :( I'd come home to the leaves floating or the whole plants floating. I think my goldfish are guilty too but not as much as those 4 algae eater! they are too fast, I couldnt catch them so I could put them outside :(
     
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    DutchMuch Lord Of The Aquascapes!

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    FTS: full tank shot, I was thinking "eh should I say the whole word, NAH IM LAZY" lol!
    I understand your water problem there, try at LEAST 25 percent weekly if possible, water changing weekly is needed for usually any tank, only experts who have studied No Tech tanks for years are able to perform no water changes. And that comes with certain skill and trade offs. Why I recommend Diana walstad.
    If you have a pond, put the pleco in there. In that size of a tank it is way to large (since you said large I take it its about a foot and a half by now) and usually require about a 100 gallon tank.
    Clown loaches also require a 100 gallon tank or more, so I recommend returning them or giving them to someone you know can care for them, they school and need a good group of usually six plus.
    Definitely for the pleco though since I think you joined this forum because you have a pond (lol) put him in there, hell be fine with temp swings as well. Just acclimate him beforehand in a bucket. (make sure the pond is long enough though, at least 6x the length of the fish.)
     
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    DutchMuch Lord Of The Aquascapes!

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    Heaters are needed in all tropical tanks, and in order for plants to grow. Generally "aquarium plants" ( I hate that name because that's not what they are ) require temperatures above seventy five degrees F* as in nature they are mostly found in brazil, Such as buce and crypts. Siamese algae eaters require (ik, I love giving people proper information and I know I sound like a big nerd who SUCKS AT LIFE lmao) a school of six or more, in a tank above 25 u.s. Gallons. And they are tropical fish so they need at least 75 degrees F* I personally have never kept them as algae issues are not a problem with me, I recommend Nepen you join a forum called "The Planted Tank" and ask any further questions on this subject on there. But as for plants you can ask me Or a forum called TheBarrreport (. which I am also on.
     
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    Well, that was the point of a low maintenance/low tech tank so I didn't have to do weekly water changes and such. In my 35 yrs of keeping aquariums, I've never done weekly changes, monthly at best. I know that's what every recommends now and I see the benefits, but I've always done fine without doing it.
    My plants did save my tank last August during a long power outage, I lost over a dozen large goldfish in the pond, but my planted tank was fine. I attribute that to the plants...and the lighter fish load, I had less fish back then. I now have a generator.
    The pleco is about 8-9" long so I guess no a huge one. I had thought about putting it in with the gold fish just never have done it.
    The clowns are maybe 3" long so they haven't gotten to the monster status yet. They do well as a pair, but just dig up a lot. I had them in my turtle tank for a while, they did well, but got rid of the turtles and thought they would be fine in this tank. Now that they've gotten the tank dug out how they like, they have calmed down some. I rarely see them out, but I still may get rid of them.
     
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    usually this way If you pay attention to your parameters, GH/KH they will fluctuate doing this, (this being keeping the same water) people tend to see ammonia build up leading to fish loss, leading to other illnesses spreading in the tank. Would like to add though and idk if you meant it, its about the fish and plants not so much ourselves, if someone is not committed (not saying you I mean in general, its a common thing thanks to commercial advertising) to keeping fish or plants properly they shouldn't start doing so at all. I always tell people do Loads and loads of background research before buying anything or doing anything, as it usually ends up in a waste of time, a mistake, an outbreak of something, or a waste of money and effort.
     
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    Can I make a journal on this tank within' the indoor tanks thread?
     
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    Well I just got done going through a huge adrenaline rush...
    My mom was spraying (basically deet) her insect repellent on herself about a foot away from my tanks, and she sprayed A LOT of it to.
    So I didn't think anything of it I was like "next time don't do that next to my tanks please" So I keep going through my day, get ready to do my weekly water change and then I see 7 shrimp laying on the table.
    I immediately go into "wt*?" mode and question why they would jump
    Then I hear my filter
    "GURGLE GURGLE GURGLE" as it overflows with foam
    Then I go into "WT* IS GOING ON" mode
    Then (x3) i do a 97 percent water change and clean out all my filter media (some is inaccessible) then refill with the usual DI water...
    and now im typing this, my hands are still shaky...
     
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    The dirt choice is really important. Some soils contain herbicides that will make plant growth very difficult.
    I did a Walstad type tank setup and made sure to use organic garden soil. No water changes and it really was maintenance free, other than trimming plants. I'm not sure if your sand cap was a good idea, sand can pack pretty tightly and perhaps prevent sufficient gas/nutrient exchange. I used 7 mm gravel for my cap.
     
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