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here's the little i can see from your pic that may lead to tge leak as I have included you can see the fold in tge rubber we all have them. Even though this is rubber and does not absorb water the water can what we call whick. This is where the water is pulled up by physics. Tge water can actually travel up to and inch or more in HEIGHT above the water line. You can see it the pic under tge fold is still wet. Perfect suspect but the only way to know is to follow the fold to the edge and see it the ground is wet. I would suspect something like that or even if your sides are that low the water can actually whick up a rock. YES WATER CAN FLOW UPHILL ON ITS OWN WITHOUT A PUMP. it looks like your
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sides may not be.much higher then your water level hard to tell.
 
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I had a leak, could not find the sucker anywhere, well finally found it, a fold in my bog liner, yep the water was wicking up and out. Hardly noticeable, but there it was. I also have had leaks due to deer, they step on a rock push it down next thing the liner is too low and there goes the water.
 
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It's amazing how much water can get out of a low edge. I had an inside-the-pond iris that decided to also be an outside-the-pond iris, and just the creeping rhizome pushing down on the edge on it's way to freedom quickly became visible water loss. We still blamed the waterfall because of where the ground was wet, and then I spied with my little eye my friend the sneaky iris... and right then, I knew!
 

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Creeping jenny and some grasses pushed down the back edge of my bog, grew up and over and the water followed.
 
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I treated the pond for Ich and fungus but they all died. My plan is in Post #6. I did know about water wicking but now I do thanks to?all of you guys. Thanks
 
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OK So how do i fix this wicking problem in the folds? I could remove the rocks around the fold and put dirt behind the fold so it is straight up or ?????. There are many folds around this pond.
 

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OK So how do i fix this wicking problem in the folds? I could remove the rocks around the fold and put dirt behind the fold so it is straight up or ?????. There are many folds around this pond.
I fixed my one by putting dirt behind it, so the fold was more upright. Before it was laying flat, then slightly pointed down, outside of the pond.

Look for wet, that will tell you which fold is the problem, doubt it is all of them.
 
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Exactly. Re-fold so it’s upright with dirt behind to keep it straight. Just look for wet areas. Don’t worry about folds in general.
 
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Just because there is a fold that does not mean that's your leak but if you peal back the rocks carefully on a dry day and your soil is wet . Bingo there's one . in the photo i circled the fold it looked like the fold was wet a suspect it maybe traveling. The best thing to do is lift the outer edges so you have at least 3" if not more from the water high level mark. Another option you can do which will help the rubber keep the shape you fix it to is, to caulk that fold if will help the rubber keep that shape and help stop the whicking . but it usually has to be dry depending on your caulking. . . Again not all the folds will be your issue unless your heights are real low.
Another whicker is plants mainly dead ones as they can do the same. Many stems of plants are hollow acting like a straw.
 
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OK All leak fixes in folds and rocks that also could be wicking will be done when the water worms up.
This is my plan. Empty the pond since all of the fish are dead and pressure wash the entire pond including the rocks.
Then i plan to fill the pond add anti chlorine and waite about 7 days before adding new fish.
Question: How should i quarantine new fish? Where should i buy the new fish?
 
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Sorry to hear you lost your fish but what i would do is give your system a shot to see if it can compensate for the load/ being the fish death. One way to cycle a pond is to add something to bring the ammonia levels up and leave the pond be. see if it can generate the needed bacteria. you could add some nitrifying bacteria to the pond to give it a boost but generally that's needed in warmer waters. i should have added to remove the dead fish , which I'd bet is already done.
 
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Not sure i fully agree with that while you don't have to quarantine for fish to fish , you don't want to add anything into the pond you'll need to fight latter
 

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Empty the pond since all of the fish are dead and pressure wash the entire pond including the rocks.
I am not sure I would pressure wash the liner and rocks. That is where your good biofilm lives. If you do add fish slowly as you will be starting over with new pond syndrome.
 
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Since i don't know what killed the fish i would like to start all over. I will add prime for the chlorine and add nitrifying bacteria for a good start and hope for the best.
 
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Just noticed how many brands of nitrifying bacteria there are. Can anyone suggest one for a 700 Gal pond?
 
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Just noticed how many brands of nitrifying bacteria there are. Can anyone suggest one for a 700 Gal pond?
I think temperature has an effect on colonization. If it's cold in your area, maybe wait until the Spring to get it jump started.

I never use any store bought bacteria. I let nature build up the beneficial bacteria. Personally, I think that's a waste of money, but that's my opinion, you do what you feel is right.

Hopefully others will chime in on the subject.

As long as you have all the parts of the puzzle in place, nature will take care of it.
Fish are part of that puzzle. The ammonia they excrete is needed, but you can mimic that by adding your own ammonia. I've never done that and have no idea how much you should add. Hopefully someone here can guide you on that too.
 
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Just noticed how many brands of nitrifying bacteria there are. Can anyone suggest one for a 700 Gal pond?
I use (liquid) Microbe-lift pbl pro blend, alternated with (dry) PondBuilder's Muck Buster. Does it help? I think so - it definitely seems to help keep my water clear when it really starts heating up in the Summer. And, yes, I am very aware that many people think it's a waste of money & doesn't give any benefit. I believe it falls into the might help, can't hurt category, and I honestly believe I've noticed a difference. YMMV
 
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I use (liquid) Microbe-lift pbl pro blend, alternated with (dry) PondBuilder's Muck Buster. Does it help? I think so - it definitely seems to help keep my water clear when it really starts heating up in the Summer. And, yes, I am very aware that many people think it's a waste of money & doesn't give any benefit. I believe it falls into the might help, can't hurt category, and I honestly believe I've noticed a difference. YMMV
Yep, it's one of those things where everyone has their opinion. I respect that.
As I said, I don't use it, but as long as there's no harm done, do what you like.
 

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