floating planter rings

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    buckry

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    Yes mine are little guppies, probably weigh 3 ounces. If they rammed something at full speed it would probably be like someone throwing a raisin at you. So you're saying that 20" fish will destroy plants faster than they can grow. That is definitely a whole different issue then. I guess I'm going to enjoy my situation while I can.
     
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    koiguy1969 GIGGETY-GIGGETY!!

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    yes thats what i'm saying...they will tear off the roots, shred the plant....its stupid..i dont even think the eat much of them.. i should video my 4&1/2 foot ring bobbing and getting partially pulled under. when they get busy at it...my ring is tied off to a 8lb weight, in the center of bottom of the caging the wire is just long enough to reach the pond floor and they move the ring around the pond. its ridiculous. but some folks never have a real issue. maybe its just one or two fish doing it.who knows? one bad one teaches the rest? most of the damage seems to be done at night. theres rarely a day i dont net out dead lilly pads, floating..hyacinth roots floating,and large chunks of my border plants floating.
     
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    That is stupid because I see them trying to eat Hyacinth roots free floating in the water all the time and they are obviously disgusting. Why would they go out of their way to mess with these things they dont' want to eat. Oh well, I guess it's no different than me leaving the garage door open last night and finding a huge cardboard box shredded in the yard courtesy of my two big idiot dogs. Don't worry about that rawhide bone I gave you, chew on some cardboard, that will be fun.
     
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    koiguy1969 GIGGETY-GIGGETY!!

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    if they were tenants and you were the landlord...you'd evict!...........lol
     
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    They like that rip sound and know that daddy would not approve!
     
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    My parent's neighbor has a small 600 or so gallon pond in his front yard and he has some monster koi in there. Probably 1 that is over 20", 3 in the 15" range and then 2 10" fish. He has 1 potted lily and it is just sitting on the floor of the pond, not a single rock or anything on top of the bulb. I think his fish must be some of those "well behaved" ones you were referring to. I look at his pond whenever I'm there and I've never seen a pad floating free in the water. Lucky bastard, with 28 koi I don't think I have a shot. It will only take 1 to wreak havoc and there is no way that I've got 28 angel fish, no pun intended.
     
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    This is a great idea! I tweaked it ( because I'm cheap :D lol ) I used the 3/4" foam tube you use on hot water pipes ( 1.27$ ) works great! Everything else is the same.
     
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    koiguy1969 GIGGETY-GIGGETY!!

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    as long as it works!
     
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    Has anyone thought about using mesh netting and fishing line to sew it onto the rings. You could just loop it over the edges in circular piece and have a "basket " hanging down for the plants to sit in? The woven wreaths would probably work with this, and would think many the covered styro sheets like lowes has could be cut in a small inner ring and fitted into the wreath inside to hold the whole thing up???? I am going to have to try this and will post a pic when I do,,,just a thought.
     
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    Ok seems I missed a whole page of this thread and as I was looking just now I saw the mesh posts.... And the noodles too they are better ideas then I could come up with! Teach me to type before I look carefully! Now a question please what exactly does the small round bogs do for the ponds?
     
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    LOL I put short stout bare root marginals in the center of my floating rings, surrounded by duckweed and water primrose. it's a great addition and the frogs love it! When I completed the ring and put it in the pond empty and left it there, I came back about 10 mins later and my Lemon Butterfly was inside of it! LOL Guess he was curious... and of course me without my camera :(
     
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    koiguy1969 GIGGETY-GIGGETY!!

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    easy questiuon...the floating plants like hyacinths and lettuce are very efficient at nutrient removal (absorbtion) and collect alot of floating particulates. they are also a favorite snack for koi... large koi can and will decimate these plants. the rings are a simple yet effective way to guard the roots of these plants so they can continue to perform the desired task unhindered. hyacinths also have a quite beautiful flower. you may see alot of them in the rings..without the rings.. not so much!
    **netting is not the most effective way to go. you want somthing rigid. with netting, what is stopping them from pushing the net up and still eating the roots. or pushing up and pushing the plants right out of the ring? plastic mesh like the hardware fencing has holes large enough to alllow good water flow. and even allow fry to swim in and out freely. giving them a safe haven.
     
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    Shalom - may want to consider 1" foam insullation boards they have at the box stores - cut to shape , use a couple/ few layers for bouancy, cut holes for plant pots and you can adjust the height of the plant above the water, cover bare spots with spray adhesive and cover with pea grave,l dirt, dried moss, etc., to get the affect you want. couple smaller layers on the underside for bouancy, they will float and if large enough not tip over when the plants get grown. I don't have a way to calculate how much is needed for the bouancy - you're on your own for that.

    By adjusting the height of the plant pot it gives the ability to use numerous land plants, depending on how much water they can stand - On the watergarden forum, there's a thread with a picture of a beautiful island.

    I currently, have 3 floating islands,made them from light grating, cut to size, wire tied pieces together to get the shape wanted.. Laid them flat and sprayed great stuff on the bottom for bouancy, when dried turn it over spraying the top side, and as the foam expanded I stuck pea gravel sand into the great stuff. Once the foam was dried, cut it with a knife where needed. Nature and air pollution also contributed to darking the foam. I did cut the holes in the grating before foaming-used a pair of wire nippers

    I have impatiens, marigolds, creeping jew, hosta, 5star ground cover, bluestars, and a burgandy colored plant I think is Auselonea(?)

    McKool
     
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    Never thought about using spray foam for flotation! Cool, McCool!
     
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    Oops McKool, sorry for misspelling lol.
     
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    Your forgiven - another thought - I used oil change pans from Walmart, they're shallow, drilled holes for the water and wire tied 1" hot water pipe oam insulation to the outside of the il pan. Works for short plants, the impatiens lokked great in it - I had 4 dragon tails in one and it flipped over when the plants got tall. I use the oil change pan in my middle pond for the lillies. You can also use this pan or similar without holes or a tiny hole or two near the top depending on how much water you want in the pan for flowers requiring less water.

    McKool
     
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    Awsome ideas!
     
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    Shalom - wald the box stores thinking " what can I use at/in or near the pond"? - ended up using a piece of roof flashing to make a wasster deflector from the wall of the grits mill - glued the rocks on with luiquid nails, screwed the panel onto the wood side and it looks like a stone wall on the inside of the waterwheel. Then made a would trough, covered it with thinset tile adhesive with some colored grout to make it look brownish, pushed in the river rock pea gravel and now it looks like a "country" rock wall along side the waterwheel - i did have the thinset and grout left over from a bathroom remodel. But by walking the stores I get idea's.
     
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    best thing is too do what you did walk around and look at things and amazed at what you can see if you look hard .I made an island from this styrofoam square thing that my microwave was packed in .Used screening and wired it to it and then spray foamed the screening ,but will not put it in this year ,probably to late to really get it growing good ,but may try it anyways .I put a couple of flower pots I had from plants i bought on sale and spray foamed them in place .I soaked them good in peroxide and doubled them up for strength and also mismatched the holes in the bottom of the pot so they were not so big .
     
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    Sissy we need some pics please!!!!!
     
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