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Hi. I am new to this, during the evening one of my koi jumped out of the pond. I don't know for how long. It was raining however. When I fou d her, I assumed she was dead but after a bit I saw her mouth moving for air. I put her in the smaller pond to see if she will survive. I don't know what to do for her and am upset she is. My favorite one,completely white. Is there any advice to help her. She coughed out some sand. My koi never jumped out before. I put this colorization stuff in that said will prevent uv rays and keep the water cooler in the summer. Could it be that? I think I am going to filter it out anyway.
 

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If they never reacted this way before and after yiu did some change then it's a safe bet that it was the change that did it. I would never use dye in a pond with fish,uv doesn't need controlled and the only thing the dye is good for is to control algae which is easy enough to control otherwise. I hope your koi survives. Tell us more about your pond please.
 

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Is it spawning time for your fish ,you may need some type of net .I know some koi do not start breeding until they are a couple of years old .Make sure the koi has plenty of air in the water also .
 
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Thank you. My pond has a water fall and a pump to move water around. I winter them inside at winter and they go in the pond when warmer. I recently had to repair a leak. I don't think t h ey were spawning. I have a screen over it now and need to put some dirt back around it. Other than that it's pretty much been the routine for a few years now. I do need to get that blue water out though...... or the white rocks. I'm thinking drain it a bit and put new water in gradually until it is clear. I want to purchase a heater for winter this year. Im down to two koi if she doesn't make it and three mini me gold fish. (Each one is the exact color each koi, it was a neat accident)
 

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But I have learned that a pump and waterfall are not really enough .When I first added an aerator back in 2007 I found my water cleared up and fish seemed happier .I went then from a 2 port to a 4 port and now have a 12 port and it is amazing just to see how clear the water is compared to other peoples ponds .Each time I also went to a bigger pond .
 

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to filter it out a little faster use quilt batting .My neighbor put it in and was that a big mistake .She put the whole bottle in and her hose came loose from her pump and had to pull the pump and she had to go to work so guess who had smurf arms and hands .It does not wash off like they said it would .It was almost black it was so dark blue .
 
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to filter it out a little faster use quilt batting .My neighbor put it in and was that a big mistake .She put the whole bottle in and her hose came loose from her pump and had to pull the pump and she had to go to work so guess who had smurf arms and hands .It does not wash off like they said it would .It was almost black it was so dark blue .
Awesome idea. Thank you, I did maybe two cap fulls.
 
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She didn't make it. :( thank you for all the advice! Here is a photo of the pond. She is buried there.
 
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But I have learned that a pump and waterfall are not really enough .When I first added an aerator back in 2007 I found my water cleared up and fish seemed happier .I went then from a 2 port to a 4 port and now have a 12 port and it is amazing just to see how clear the water is compared to other peoples ponds .Each time I also went to a bigger pond .
How big an air at or did you use is there a special one for ponds?
 

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Sorry about the loss but I want to take this opportunity to warn against getting any more koi. 250 gallons isn't big enough to keep more then a half dozen big comets in good shape. Do you have any plans in the near future to enlarge? If not then I suggest rehoming your existing koi to a keeper with a properly sized pond.
 

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Now that I'm looking at your pond I don't think it was the dye that made it jump. As I stated last post it's just to small for koi especially if they are getting much over 8 inches or so. Fish also jump because of poor quality water,do you test your water?
 

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I had your preformed as temporary pond until front porch was done and agree you will a bigger pond .My one aerator was a small one from petco and was a 4 port and it worked OK and came with every thing ,The new one I have is a laguna one .I have 2 koi and they are now over 2 feet long and were only a couple of inch's long back in 2004
 
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Sorry about the loss but I want to take this opportunity to warn against getting any more koi. 250 gallons isn't big enough to keep more then a half dozen big comets in good shape. Do you have any plans in the near future to enlarge? If not then I suggest rehoming your existing koi to a keeper with a properly sized pond.
I deffinately am not getting any more. And this pond does go down 4 feet. The koi as of now one is 8 inches. The other out a foot. I have been looking for someone with a larger pond. To make these guys happier. Right now they seem Co tent. Swimming and eating. I am going to purchase a net. Initially that box. Was going to be the pond. 8 x 8, I bought the wrong size plastic, I got these instant ones from a garage sale a few years back. Next year I may redo the entire set up to be larger. I am not certain.
Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge.
 

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My neighbour has that exact pond,it's only a little over 2 ft deep . Anyway,it's good your have plans to expand.
 
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Now that I'm looking at your pond I don't think it was the dye that made it jump. As I stated last post it's just to small for koi especially if they are getting much over 8 inches or so. Fish also jump because of poor quality water,do you test your water?
Oh. Water is fine, these were actually rescues, someone had them and the house became abandoned with power turned off. I got a call to go get them. So. Initially I had them in a 100 gal tank I side. No one tried to jump out. When I put this pond in for them 2 years ago they all seemed happy. Just this time the one freaked. So I'm am a newby
 
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My neighbour has that exact pond,it's only a little over 2 ft deep . Anyway,it's good your have plans to expand.
Oh. I did mean to ask. She had red marks to war her back tail like spider veins.... was that from ju pi g you think or something did something g to her. Just curious so I can keep an eye out for so e creature visiting
 
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Your pond is too small for the koi which is why it jumped IMO. Fish jump out of water when the conditions are not good.

You need 1000 gallons for the first four koi. If you are less than 1000 gallons you shouldn't have any koi.

Stick to goldfish like me. Comets and shubunkins can get huge but wont go gigantic like koi.
 
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Your pond is too small for the koi which is why it jumped IMO. Fish jump out of water when the conditions are not good.

You need 1000 gallons for the first four koi. If you are less than 1000 gallons you shouldn't have any koi.

Stick to goldfish like me. Comets and shubunkins can get huge but wont go gigantic like koi.
Thank you. I am waiting for a gentleman to c9ntact me. He says his pond is so nice the koi have young. I want these guys to be happy.
 

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