My fish are acting skittish and won't eat after I cleaned the pond.


EAC

Joined
Aug 21, 2013
Messages
39
Reaction score
3
Location
Wildwood MO
I have three Koi and a little Shubunkin.

I bought this house a few months ago, so I wanted to spruce the pond up a little. Little did I know that I was doing more harm than good.

When I drain and refill 25% this weekend, I still need to add a little dechlorinator right?


studiovette said:
You should be fine. Plenty of good advice on here already. What kinda fish are they? Not sure if you mentioned that already. Also next time never drain the entire pond out. You alwyas want to leave some of the water which has the bene bacteria in it which will make restarting the pond up so much easier. I can understand wanting to clean the rocks and sludge off etc. I did that this past spring cause my pond was a swamp due to prior owner not caring enough to close it down properly.. Good luck
 
Ad

Advertisements

studiovette

GS PETE
Joined
Apr 17, 2013
Messages
132
Reaction score
50
Location
NJ ZONE 7A
Yes 25% is a large change, you deff want to add dechlor and I would keep adding the recommended doses of beneficial bacteria since most or all of yours is gone. That will speed up the acclimation period.
 

EAC

Joined
Aug 21, 2013
Messages
39
Reaction score
3
Location
Wildwood MO
Forgive my ignorance, but how add beneficial bacteria? Is that something I can buy?


studiovette said:
Yes 25% is a large change, you deff want to add dechlor and I would keep adding the recommended doses of beneficial bacteria since most or all of yours is gone. That will speed up the acclimation period.
 

GreatDanesDad

Electro-Mechanical Engineer
Joined
Sep 4, 2012
Messages
94
Reaction score
29
Location
Phoenix AZ
Beneficial Bacteria is easy to find. Most all home depots, walmarts, and petsmarts have BB in the pond/fish area. You can also buy it online at amazon or any of the many fish stores. There is dry (powder), Dry (Tablets), and liquid. I prefer the liquid, but it is a preferance.
 

EAC

Joined
Aug 21, 2013
Messages
39
Reaction score
3
Location
Wildwood MO
Thanks, should I also buy a few more plants? I've read a few places that recommend that for getting the ammonia down.
 
Ad

Advertisements

studiovette

GS PETE
Joined
Apr 17, 2013
Messages
132
Reaction score
50
Location
NJ ZONE 7A
Yes they deff help but you also don't want to overplant as they can reduce the oxygen levels in the warmer overnight hours and could harm your fish. My pond is about 50-50 plants to water right now mostly cause It gets a lot of sun during peak hours and my fish seem to love staying under the lilies and water hyacinth during that time.
EAC said:
Thanks, should I also buy a few more plants? I've read a few places that recommend that for getting the ammonia down.
 

EAC

Joined
Aug 21, 2013
Messages
39
Reaction score
3
Location
Wildwood MO
studiovette said:
Yes they deff help but you also don't want to overplant as they can reduce the oxygen levels in the warmer overnight hours and could harm your fish. My pond is about 50-50 plants to water right now mostly cause It gets a lot of sun during peak hours and my fish seem to love staying under the lilies and water hyacinth during that time.

Thanks, I don't have much cover right now. Just one plant. I'll buy some lettuce this weekend.


studiovette said:
Yes they deff help but you also don't want to overplant as they can reduce the oxygen levels in the warmer overnight hours and could harm your fish. My pond is about 50-50 plants to water right now mostly cause It gets a lot of sun during peak hours and my fish seem to love staying under the lilies and water hyacinth during that time.
 

Attachments

  • 20130825_162927.jpg
    20130825_162927.jpg
    73.9 KB · Views: 257

slakker

AKA Mike
Joined
Mar 20, 2012
Messages
351
Reaction score
321
Location
Vancouver, Canada
Hardiness Zone
8b
If you're going to add plants, maybe try some hornwort... I read that they are good at taking ammonia/ammonium out of the water directly without it needed to be converted to nitrate/nitrite first. Other plants may do this as well and it's not a "cure all" plant, but I quite like it.

For me, I've also done water changes via dilution... Ie; I don't take water out then add back in, I slow trickle water into the system and let it flow out of overflow.

A variation of this idea from Dr. Johnson.

http://www.drjohnson.com/a_article_pond_koi_goldfish_constant_waterchanges.html
 

JohnHuff

I have reached pond nirvana
Joined
Apr 17, 2012
Messages
2,249
Reaction score
1,612
Location
At my computer
Hardiness Zone
1a
Country
Kyrgyzstan
For pre-filters, I recommend this:
ttp://www.petco.com/product/114937/TetraPond-Water-Garden-Pond-Pump-Cylinder-Pre-Filter.aspx?CoreCat=Related_Products
You can buy 1 or 2 (they can be added to each other) and they are really good at mechanical filtration. Just take your cage off and put it on instead.

You don't need to buy beneficial bacteria, they just occur in nature. Here are a couple of articles you can read:
ttp://www.fishchannel.com/setups/ponds/pondkeepers-guide-to-filtration-2.aspx
http://aquaristmagazine.com/nitrate-in-the-aquarium-why-its-bad-and-how-to-get-rid-of-it/
Unless the store you buy it at is a specialized place and ships it with cold, it isn't really bacteria. Hopefully WaterBug can come here and explain it. That stuff they sell dry or in a powder isn't bacteria, it's substrate.

Plants really are a long term thing and won't bring down your ammonia in the short term. The lower the plant (in the evolutionary scale) the better it will be a removing ammonia. Higher plants won't help much. That's why I suggested duckweed or even algae.




EAC said:
Well, I had to leave out of town and will return Friday night, so I won't be able to change out any water until saturday morning. I hope my fish live until then. They were just hanging out on the bottom this morning.

Should I buy a few more lettuce plants this weekend? Will that help as well?

The pump I have is the PondMaster Pond-Mag Pump 950 GPH. It has a cage on the end. How would I attach a filter to that?
 
Joined
May 31, 2013
Messages
33
Reaction score
15
Location
South Jersey
Hardiness Zone
6B
I'm jumping late on this one so excuse my tardiness, can I ask what kind of water are using to replace ? Tap water?

I've also found that adding pond salt is a big help for the pond and fish health.
 
Ad

Advertisements

EAC

Joined
Aug 21, 2013
Messages
39
Reaction score
3
Location
Wildwood MO
So, I drained 1/2 and refilled w/ dechlorinator and some bacteria in a bottle. I also added some lettuce and 4 additional gold fish. They all seem to be pretty happy. I only added the bacteria because the owner at the Pond Store suggested it.
 

Attachments

  • 20130831_192740.jpg
    20130831_192740.jpg
    79.8 KB · Views: 222

studiovette

GS PETE
Joined
Apr 17, 2013
Messages
132
Reaction score
50
Location
NJ ZONE 7A
EAC said:
So, I drained 1/2 and refilled w/ dechlorinator and some bacteria in a bottle. I also added some lettuce and 4 additional gold fish. They all seem to be pretty happy. I only added the bacteria because the owner at the Pond Store suggested it.
I believe that we made the bacteria recommendation here first LOL
 
Ad

Advertisements

sissy

sissy
Joined
Jan 17, 2011
Messages
32,919
Reaction score
15,545
Location
Axton virginia
Showcase(s):
1
Hardiness Zone
7A
Country
United States
Bacteria bought is not a waste and most use it to start there ponds up in the spring .I never understood the total cleaning of a pond and never will .The fish eat all the good stuff off the liner .It is like a salad bar to them .
 
Ad

Advertisements

EAC

Joined
Aug 21, 2013
Messages
39
Reaction score
3
Location
Wildwood MO
Also, my water went from being crystal clear to being pretty murky. Is this because of it cycling or because I still don't have a filter?
 

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments. After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.

Ask a Question

Similar Threads

Fantail goldfish changed colour overnight! 7
Best Goldfish Food 7
My Fish Are HAPPY! 18
Fish acting lethargic 64
Are my fish acting normal? 18
Attracting fish or snails 6
Goldfish acting strangely 15
Goldfish acting funny 11

Top