Slate Flagstone?

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    Ugh! No I didn't do a shelf the whole way around! I wish I would have. I have a shelf on my shallow end for the toads and birds to get in and out. I have another shelf down by my deep end but it's probably a foot and a half deep. I have both of those shelves covered in rocks. I guess it's not too late to add that little ledge all the way around though. I'd have to let my water evaporate a few inches and pull back my liner.
     
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    This looks really nice! The only reason I'm using the slate is because I bought my pond used and the lady gave me an obnoxious amount of slate too. I think I could use a mortar on it just like this though!
     
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    It would be worth it, in my opinion. Really hides the liner nicely. As your water level changes a bit you will never be looking at liner hanging out.
    You could just do a section at a time, push the liner out away from the wall, do some careful digging, lay the liner back down, move to the next spot.
    On that shelf, under water, make sure it is lower towards the wall, higher towards the water, that way the rocks don't slide into the pond.
     
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    Lucky you!!
    I would have used slate also, except that the costs were rising on the project and the slate was at least 12 times more expensive.
    And the ledge was all but impossible because of the sand and rock substrate. The sand fell in on itself with every shovel full of it. The walls of the pond had to be sprayed with water and kept wet so that they wouldn't cave in and slip down into a slope.
    It was all very difficult.
    If/when I build another one. I think I'll line the walls with bricks or something.
     
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    ledge around may be good for plants but not good if you have predators
     
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    I have a very small ledge with rocks on it, the herons have not used it.
     
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    Don't the herons stay away from rocks? I have both of my plant shelves covered with field stone for babies to hide in.
     
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    YES! I got incredibly lucky! The pond is 20' by 10'. I got the liner, waterfall box with built in filter, the underwater pump, a bio filter, Four 12" butterfly koi fish, a large black molly fish, about $1,000 worth of slate rock, all the food, cleaners and chemicals she had, waterlillies, cork screw grass, extra plant baskets, a floating basket, a fountain, 2 koi water spitters, a concrete water spitter of two otters, a plastic floating toad on a foam lily pad, a 10'x20' net, vacuum, a few pond books. She also gave me pond silicone, extra tubing, black pond foam. You'll never believe I paid $200 for EVERYTHING! We just had to help drain it and move it all. Luckily we live really close to them! I got all of the field stone I needed for free from a local farmer. I just had to pick it all up out of the field. The only thing I'm missing is a skimmer and araetor. I just bought a pond breather for winter after all the nice folks here recommended it. I'll definetely have a skimmer before summer hits! So far I'm only out $300 and I am really loving my pond. I've wanted one for years!
     
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    no need for a skimmer if you don't get alot of stuff falling in the pond .I just use a swimming pool net .aerator will be needed .
     
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    Wow.
    My project came in at Over A grand.
    Including the $200 I payed to have a teenage neighbor help me dig and haul rocks and dirt.
     
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    No they seem to walk where ever they want to.
     
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    I definetely need one. My pond is right under a huge tree. Great for shade but not so great for debris.
     
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    I am lucky I have lots of trees but the wind blows up my hill and blows the leaves all back to the woods
     
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    I'm hoping once I get my flower garden planted around the pond it will help catch a lot of the leaves that blow across the lawn.
     
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    great deal Angela, mine came out to just under $2000 and that includes getting a free filter, pump, rocks, fish and plants. Most of the cost was from the concrete and landscaping blocks, gravel, new liner, extra pump and netting. I thought I was building it on the cheap, but after adding up my HD receipts the totals kept on growing. Good thing my wife doesn't monitor my HD spending as I told her I'd keep it under 1K.
     
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    Mine is inside an enclosed patio area.
    The area has a roof and walls made of trellis. With a 4x4 frame.
     

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    Hmmm I like that!! Ideas....ideas...
     
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    I suppose it comes down to your particular climate, predators and of course how much room and money you are willing to put aside.
    Having a spouse that is at least somewhat enthusiastic would also help.
     
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    Mine is also very involved but also very much a tight wad. LOL
     
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    She calls it practicality.
    And she's right.
    But I could have much worse things to do in my free time.
     
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