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    Do any of you people out in the counrty use a burn barrel? We have our three garbage cans for recycling in the garage for plastic, glass, and metal, but everything else gets burned.

    working on ideas for a better burn barrel because not everything seems to burn up very well in my barrel, and then i've got to tip it over and sift through the muck inside.
     
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    We use a big cement sewer pipe ring as it has no bottom and is about 3ft tall and 3ft wide. I have a stainless steel cover over it to keep out the rain. I can stir it up w/ a big stick as it's shorter than the metal barrels we used to use. When it fills up w/ ash it's easy to just scoop it out and use a hose to spread it around and it just dissolves into the dirt. I don't put anything metallic or plastic in there so it's just paper ashes. We do recycle the magazines,cardboard and newspapers. Just burn the junk mail etc. that we don't want getting out into the world w/ any of our info on it. Heard some people were putting together peoples shredded papers to gain info.
     
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    I just dig a large hole in the ground and burn it that and after awhile I cover that hole over with dirt and it conditions the soil and I dig a new hole .The old hole where garbage is burned just adds fertilizer to the soil .
     
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    And heavy metals and lord knows what else! Be careful with what you burn!!!
    John
     
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    My idea... I think i may put it to the test this weekend.

    first pic, barrel, lid cut off, all sorts of holes cut in the lid

    then the barrel, cut off a section toaward the bottom about to he first rung of the barrel, and cut these little slits in it to make tabs you cvan pound to the inside. then you can set the lid right on those three tabs and its suspended about 1/3 of the way up the barrel. and then the piece i cut off, i can stick a little handle on, so that i can remove and replace it while the barrel is still hot

    now i can get myself a nice hot wood/ leaf fire goingin the bottom of the barrel, stick that little lid back over that hole. and just throw garbage bag in top of barrel and just roast all of my junkmail, food scraps, wet/nasty junk from my kitchen garbage. ANd then i just need a nice wire mesh top so hot ashes dont blow all over the place.

    second pic is the back. where i'll have to cut the last tab and just bend it inside the barrel with a hammer.
     
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    I just burn paper and at the dump they have places there to throw your cans and plastic bottles for recycle so those get crushed up and taken there .I love the areas I have burned in because they get nice and green .
     
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    ididntdoit99 ididntdoit99

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    try that again as a jpg... smaller file

    barrel.JPG

    barrel2.JPG
     
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    Ididntdoit,

    Um, I have the perfect thing for you, but I don't know how you can acquire one of these.

    What you need is the outer shell of an extruder's collector. Yeah, I know that you don't know what I mean just yet. Let me explain the industry first.
    Extruding plastic. You take beads of plastic resin, feed them into the throat of an extruder (looks like a giant meat grinder). The extruder has a drive
    shaft called a SCREW that looks like the innerds of a corn or soybean auger flighting, but the tube is heated to melt the pressurize the plastic and
    melt it and force it down the barrel. At the end of the barrel, instead of being plastic beads, it is molten liquid plastic like a hot melt glue gun.

    However, what you do with it from this point is run the molten plastic through a diffuser with HOT air and BLOW it out through fine openings in a DIE.
    The molten plastic and all that pressurized hot air basically makes a vaporized form of the plastic and it blows out into the atmosphere.

    A few inches away, you place a large, cylindrical drum made of stainless steel... This drum is perforated with thousands of holes. It rotates and the
    molten plastic that blows against it cools and solidifies and forms a mat like a blanket. Then, that blanket is stripped off that collector roll and sent
    on down the line to be processed further.

    See what I mean? Understand?

    Now... What you WANT for your burn barrel is one of those COLLECTOR drums made out of stainless steel and already perforated with thousands of small holes.
    I have had one for nearly 12 years and burn all my trash in it. Since it is stainless steel, it is hardy and does not degrade with so many fires.

    Stand this screening vertically, like a barrel and you light the fire through the small perforations in the screen.
    Put a cover atop the cylinder and you have the perfect burn chamber.

    Yes, I anticipate your next question.... How do I get one? Sorry, but that is classified! Ha Ha!

    Well, almost classified anyway. How do you get one? Salvage yards. These items are worth thousands of dollars new for their intended purpose, but only hundreds of dollars used. If they are bent and nearly destroyed (unusable for their original purpose). But, if you are lucky, you can acquire one for dumspter diver prices if you know what you are looking for.

    Basically all it is a cylindrical barrel, made from stainless steel and drilled full of holes.

    Otherwise, to make it easy, just use a metal, 55 gallon barrel, shoot it full of holes with a .22 or drill holes in it and put a cover over the top. That is the easiest.

    Gordy
     
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    Or you could dig a hole, fill it with your scrap and then cover it over. The paper will feed the worms, no pollution from the smoke...win...win...:)
     
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    ididntdoit99 ididntdoit99

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    ground is frozen... no hole digging for me.

    Catfishnut... I do have some contacts in the plastics industry, but I spose I could just as easily (and probably much cheaper) take a sheet of stainless steel, punch perforated hole pattern all through it, roll ot arounbd and weld it together into a round drum. May do that if i wear steel drums out too fast.
     
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    we recycle every thing, any name info is thrown in the yucky trash, black bag goes to the dump. Trees, brush etc gets pushed out into our woods down a drop, making windfalls for the critters to live in. the stuff slowly disappears.

    But do have a burn barrel, 55 gallon metal barrel, drilled full of holes, works great. It was a wedding present to me.
     
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    Someday i hope to live buy another place where i have that kind of room, but where im at right now, while I do live in the country... it's like a little 4 square block nieghborhood out in the middle of cornfields. So i do have nieghbors, otherwise i would just have an area to push all my leaves, and brush into or a compost pile for left over or spoiled food. SO I have the barrel to get rid of paper, leaves, twigs, and old food.


    little screen shot of my area... i kind of like it where i am, not isolated, but still not right in the middle of town either.

    nieghborhood.JPG
     
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    Okay now we all now where you live 99 and so we'll be coming over to partay around your new burn barrel :claphands: :bdaybiggrin: :banana:
     
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    ididntdoit99 ididntdoit99

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    LOL, You'll have to drive up and down the street peering into backyards to find my pond, and then you'll know where I live.
     
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    It's on then 99.............on our way :moped: :moped: :moped: :moped: :moped: :moped:
     
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    Well its 52° on January 5th, I believe they said we would break records for the high today. SO you might as well all get here, I was just outside in my t-shirt... its beautiful out.
     
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    don't get a winter burn and know what you mean it is 60 here
     
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    whoa... try that again. copy and paste from another wbsite didnt work well

    i just checked the weather and it says its 58°

    normal temp for today is between 6-26°
    record high is 55° in 1956
    record low is -26° in 1942
     
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    Standard steel barrels or drums will last you a LONG time if you provide drainage holes in the bottom so that rainwater does not stand in it. Then, make a small platform for it to rest upon so that the bottom is not sitting on dirt. Just a few small red street paver bricks will do fine. Make a sort of foundation with plenty of open areas between the pavers for air flow.

    Drill or shoot MANY holes in the barrel for air flow. The more air flow you have, the faster the debris will burn and that reduces the heat contained in the barrel. This makes the barrel more of a chimney than a firebox and that will extend the life of the barrel.

    I always set a screen of sorts over the top of the barrel to keep the burning paper embers from lofting out and starting fire to the grass, leaves or whatever. Just a safety precaution.

    A 55 gallon steel drum is probably the best as they are so readily available. But, keep your eyes open for one of those stainless steel collectors that I mentioned. Or, like you stated, make one. You can get perforated SS sheets and roll it into a cylinder and weld the seam pretty easily. Like I said, I have had mine for 12 or 13 years and it has virtually no degradation. Maybe a dent or two and some melted plastic on the screen, but that is not of any concern. It works GREAT! I keep this burn barrel of mine out behind an outbuilding where it is protected from the wind. I can fill it to the top, light it and I almost cannot get back to the house for another load before it has all burned up. This is the trick to maintaining a burn barrel. Get the debris to burn fast and keep the barrel as cool as possible. And of course, don't allow water to sit in the bottom. Better yet, cut the bottom out of the barrel and set the barrel on a grate like a BBQ grill or something. Then just kick the ashes away from the bottom when they begin to pile up.

    Gordy
     
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    It reached 71°F in Fremont, NE today! That is a record.

    Gordy
     
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