I miss Waterbug...

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    Mucky_Waters

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    Actually Waterbug fits the dominating dictator profile much better "president", but if you want to elect a president, elect me! I promise I'll be fair to everybody, and I'll still keep Waterbug on my staff in some limited advisory capacity.
     
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    JohnHuff Friends call me Dr. Sir John Huff

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    I mean president of Kazakhstan, but if you want to be president of Kazakhstan, I'm all for it too.
     
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    HARO Pondcrastinator

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    WB is actually very knowledgeable, but can be extremely offensive especially to newbies. I wonder how many new members to GPF decided not to come back to the forum after a rebuke from WB. However sometimes I am surprised how long and thoughtful his answers are and am amazed that he would put so much effort into clarifying an issue. My opinion is if you are smart then you don't need to wear it on your sleeve and belittle other people. People on their own will recognize your insight and intelligence. Basically if you want respect then you must first give it out. Just my two cents...
     
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    JohnHuff Friends call me Dr. Sir John Huff

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    You're totally right on about that. There was an entire thread started last week when WB asked a newbie to basically Google his answer and then gave a smart remark when the guy posted again. Yet just now, WB posted a 14 paragraph answer that was thoughtful and informative. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.
     
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    Didn't occur to you that telling someone with fish currently dying to use Google to find info instead of waiting around to play 20 questions over several days was the best chance the poster had to save their fish. That they could find and read info written by fish specialist Veterinarians instead of people in this forum with no training at all. Oh, that is horrible. How could I say such a thing? We have to keep the poster on this site, for as long as possible. They can only find the answers in our posts.

    That is the deal with forums...it's about signing up members, about generating as many posts as possible, and giving the most number of people a chance to write stuff. Saving fish, not so much.

    2733 posts and some people read insults into how many posts? Wow, not really losing any sleep. Insecure self righteousness in forums is standard stuff.
     
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    Last count was about 2730, give or take. :yikesu:
     
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    It's probably the nature of forums and written word on the computer by e-mail etc that things get misconstrued pretty easily. I have received some pretty rough e-mails in the past from clients, customers, etc then when you get them on the phone they say oh can you help me with a small problem and we resolve it and everyone is fine. I think sometimes you don't perceive how someone is affected by the written word when it is sent out into the internet. In person after the first wince or frown you know you have gone far enough. I try to be careful when writing e-mails or texts because people don't always get what you mean. Also I have learned that sarcasm doesn't work well in e-mails. Because my business is basically customer service and I live off of referrals I have learned to be as nice as possible when I send e-mails, texts, etc so someone is not offended, but that's just me.
     
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    JohnHuff Friends call me Dr. Sir John Huff

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    Puhleeze... Please don't try and justify this anymore. It just makes it look worse.

    When someone comes to ask this forum for help, how does a one liner asking him to Google it help? Imagine if you/we had an urgent question on computers/automobile/birds/food and went to the appropriate forum and some guy gave you a one liner to Google it?

    You didn't explain anything to him. You didn't give him information on where or what to look for. It looked more like a brush off than help. No answer would have been preferable to that one-liner.

    What sealed it for me was your second sarcastic reply. That was totally uncalled for. I might have believed you wanted to help except for that second remark.

     
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    It's like a bunch on high school girls bickering on the forum lately. Between this and the redic thread about needing a garden pond forum post warning I see more drama on here than useful info lately.
     
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    The deal with forums is to ask questions and get answers on the spot. Unfortunately, the author may never get a satisfactory answer. So, then, it is inevitable and quite obviously they will turn to google without provocation of someone in a forum to "just go google it".

    The deal with Google is spending hours searching hoping you will find your answer.

    Google searching also assumes you know the correct search terms and whom to read and believe. If the concerned owner does not know what questions to asked, then search on Google becomes even worse due to "information overload".

    Where is this internet info written by "fish specialist Veterinarians" ?? Examples of specific repositories involving solutions that would be applicable to our context in this hobby. The best I could ever find was koivet, which was a shame they recently flat out deleted all of their good forum threads, and K.O.I.
     
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    crsublette coyotes call me Charles

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    Very true. Sarcasm and dry humor does not work well in text and quite often turns to offense.

    Unfortunately, some folk are so sensitive, allowing what they read to have a significant impact on them when it should not, even with smiley emoticons. I remember a poster, on another forum, asked about a particular smiley emoticon. The poster wanted to know if they should be offended or not due to the use of a particular smiley emoticon. :huh: The poster had no clue and was looking for something to be outraged about out of something stupid as a simple smiley emoticon. :LOL:
     
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    DrCase Moderator Moderator

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    I only miss water bug when he's gone
    If I don't like some ones post I move on to one I like
    Lets get over it
     
    DrCase, Sep 23, 2013
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    Guys, please! I have spoken to Waterbug already - as DrCase rightly says, let's move on.
     
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