Is this an acceptable location for a pondless waterfall feature?

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    Lisak1

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    If you want to split the flow, that's fine. I would just suggest a design that all ends up in one reservoir. So split them off then bring them back to the same place, if that makes sense.

    And yes - color and shape would be the main reasons. They're a bit blocky for my taste - I'm more of a granite boulder type girl... haha! But you could definitely use them and make them look very natural, especially since they literally ARE natural! Every now and then I think about what someone will think in the distant future when they find my odd assortment of rocks - like how did all of these even GET here!
     
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    You have to make the slope such, it should flow back into storage, too steep you may not get the water to flow on surface:p, too gentle will make the water overflow and flood neighbors house:facepalm::ROFLMAO:.
     
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    You may attach a Tee connector/ splitter pipe to the out let of pump.

    Please keep updating, I would like to build one too.
     
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    I would use the rocks you dug up! I saved a ton of rocks I dug up, then found out it was all shale, turned to mush after a year of sitting out.
    Almost all of our rocks are "imported" lol. I bought pallets of rocks. Hauled truck loads, searched a farmers field for rocks. Did road side pick up of rocks lol.
     
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    Do you have any info on the type of rock I have here? I doubt these are anything like shale, they seem like they aren't going anywhere!

    Are these rocks too large perhaps? Given that I don't want too much elevation, some flat rocks would be better than these cubic ones.
     
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    If you were playing the role of benevolent god, what rock would you use for my pond construction? Or what color and size of rock? Granite?
     
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    Is there some sort of image you could show me of this splitter pipe? I can't quite visualize it.
     
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    Take a close up of some of the rocks. And what area of the country are you in?

    No rock is too large, to make them look like they have been there forever, bury about 1/2 to 2/3 of the rock, don't just place on the ground. I love large rocks.
     
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    You do a split on your hose and put 1 hose to the left and another hose to the right .I use sump pump hose but you can use a an X connector .to regular pipe and split off that .All you have to do is explain what you want to do at the hardware store and they will show you the parts you need , sump pump hose connected in pond 006.JPG
     
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    Ask for tee connecter, explain the purpose hardware store or sanitary & plumbing store.

    tee.jpg tee plastic (2).jpg tee plastic.jpg
     
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    Remember if you are gluing it or using hose clamps .I could not find my pic of my connector pond  and tank adapter 042.JPG 101_2257.JPG 101_2258.JPG 101_2259.JPG
     
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    So these tubes would have to feed into the pvc liner? Like you will have to cut a circle in the liner to fit the tube through? And you would make this circular cut on the far right side, where you then route the drainage to the pump? That seems like a good idea.
     
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    I'm in San Diego.

    Sorry these aren't the best photos in the world, but hopefully you get the idea. some of these guys weigh upwards of 400 lbs 23698763_10214822283369945_180507755_o.jpg 23698724_10214822283329944_1420226917_o.jpg 23757580_10214822283249942_1757625928_o.jpg 23698697_10214822283169940_2064098189_o.jpg 23715311_10214822282769930_1076189289_o.jpg
     
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    The liner should be epdm liner to last .If you look at pondless builds on youtube it is better .I use sump pump hose and just run it all inside the pond so if it leaks it will not drain my pond and kill my fish .Since you have no fish only harm would come to the pump .My liner is not cut anyplace .Most pondless use a vault that holds the water and the pump and the hose just runs up the liner to where it exits from the waterfall .
     
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    You actually do have some gorgeous rock there - looks like a lot of iron in some of them? I would pick and choose the best ones to start with - get some good framing rocks and start from there. Like @addy1 suggested, sink them 1/2 to 1/3 of the way in the ground to make them look more natural around the feature.
     
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    Is there a resource out there which gives information on waterfall aesthetics. Like I don't know what qualifies as a framing rock, or what I should be looking for.
     
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    I would think framing rocks would be mostly larger rocks .But placing them is like placing puzzle pieces .Ponddigger on youtube has some good info and so does aquascape
     
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    Definitely check out The Pond Digger on YouTube. He does a great job of breaking down the aesthetics of pond and waterfall construction.

    Basically the framing rocks are the ones that will "frame" your waterfall. So you want to choose those especially for that spot. Hand selecting and planning ahead where you want certain rocks to go will give you your framework - everything else is filling in the blanks.
     
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    Just like when you plant a flower pot thrillers ,spillers and fillers .Big ones you can consider your thrillers and medium sized rocks your spillers and then all the little ones left become fillers to fill in gaps left by the other rocks
     
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    Excellent analogy! I'm going to remember that!
     
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