It's been a while but I'm finally thinking of a new build..... please help!!


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Looks great. Consider doing a fishless cycle. You can get ammonium chloride from chewy for about $4. It will take about 6 weeks to cycle the pond no matter how you cycle it. The plants will be fine, don’t feel that you need to rush it for them. You’ll need patience this year, even once the cycle is complete the new pond will take a while to mature.
 
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The nitrification process or nitrogen cycle is a biological process that changes ammonia (NH3) to nitrite (NO2), and then to nitrate (NO3). To do a fishless cycle you add the ammonia to the pond daily to begin and maintain the process. The other option is to get a few fish instead but until the process completes, about six weeks, the fish will be under stress due to elevated levels or first ammonia, then nitrite.
Get a pond test kit to monitor ammonia, nitrite and pH. Additionally it’s a good idea to also monitor KH (hardness) as the bacteria need and will slowly deplete hardness.
The advantage of the fishless cycle is apparent if you are purchasing expensive fish. Say for example you want to purchase larger shubunkins locally or mail order. If you are happy with “feeder” goldfish then fine but be aware a lot of the local pet stores feeder fish are already sick before you purchase them. I’ve purchased some from local PetCo and they’ve been perfectly fine but it’s always a crap shoot. If you have a good pond store that has shubunkin and comets and are happy with smaller ones to start than 2 or 3 will probably be ok. The advantage of the fishless cycle is not stress the fish and risking loss, the disadvantage is that it will take about 6 weeks (with or w/o fish) to complete.
Some companies sell nitrifying bacteria but it doesn’t really work. The only way to jump start the process is to get living bacteria from active biological filter media where they are concentrated from another pond or aquarium but you also risk getting whatever disease those systems have.
 
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The nitrification process or nitrogen cycle is a biological process that changes ammonia (NH3) to nitrite (NO2), and then to nitrate (NO3). To do a fishless cycle you add the ammonia to the pond daily to begin and maintain the process. The other option is to get a few fish instead but until the process completes, about six weeks, the fish will be under stress due to elevated levels or first ammonia, then nitrite.
Get a pond test kit to monitor ammonia, nitrite and pH. Additionally it’s a good idea to also monitor KH (hardness) as the bacteria need and will slowly deplete hardness.
The advantage of the fishless cycle is apparent if you are purchasing expensive fish. Say for example you want to purchase larger shubunkins locally or mail order. If you are happy with “feeder” goldfish then fine but be aware a lot of the local pet stores feeder fish are already sick before you purchase them. I’ve purchased some from local PetCo and they’ve been perfectly fine but it’s always a crap shoot. If you have a good pond store that has shubunkin and comets and are happy with smaller ones to start than 2 or 3 will probably be ok. The advantage of the fishless cycle is not stress the fish and risking loss, the disadvantage is that it will take about 6 weeks (with or w/o fish) to complete.
Some companies sell nitrifying bacteria but it doesn’t really work. The only way to jump start the process is to get living bacteria from active biological filter media where they are concentrated from another pond or aquarium but you also risk getting whatever disease those systems have.
I see, ok.... In the past I have always added the bacteria to help a new filter along. I usually get MicrobeLift PL.... I never knew you could just get ammonia and do it that way. When I started this hobby I had a preform and a DIY Skippy filter years ago and did just put it all in the ground and added 10 goldfish from PetSmart! So as I learned more and built bigger and better I always had the fish.
Thanks so much for the tips!!
 
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So how much rebarb did you use. How far did you space them? Also is there a bottom to your bog? I might "borrow" your design it looks really good and is exactly what I want. What type of liner did you use? Thanks.
 
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So how much rebarb did you use. How far did you space them? Also is there a bottom to your bog? I might "borrow" your design it looks really good and is exactly what I want. What type of liner did you use? Thanks.
I only have wood ground level and above. Above ground is around 12”. 2’ long pieces of 1/2” rebar. I ran the boards so they overlapped at the corners the way log cabins do. And I ran rebar on each side of every corner where it would go thru every board and then spaced them about 2’ apart through the lengths of each side. I then used 6” trust screws. Horizontally through every corner to stabilize that even more. The screws were expensive, but they were no where near as thick as lag screws and did not need any pre drilling. So glad I went with those! I used HDRPE liner. It’s supposed to be really good. My first time using it though. In the past I always used EPDM rubber liners. Stay away from PVC liners they’re junk overtime. I used foam board insulation above ground inside the walls to help with water temp and freezing in winter. And I just used cardboard boxes as underlayment. This liner supposedly doesn’t need underlayment but I have a TON of tree roots so I was worried about those puncturing the liner.
 
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Definitely impressed ! We all saw you come in here and ask questions , you did your home work and it shows. i commend you, nice work.
 
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Beautiful I love the lemon butterfly! Nothing to do now but sit back relax and enjoy. I find I'm most relaxed when I sit and listen to the water and watch the fiah just peacefully gliding around. Once again really nice job!
Thank you!! She’s (?) my favorite one too!! And yes I just never want to come inside now!
 
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how is the pond now? btw beautiful job!
 
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how is the pond now? btw beautiful job!
Hi! It’s great! My water is cycled and readings are perfect the fish are hungry little pigs. I’m so happy I finally bit the bullet and built it!!
Sorry took me so long to respond!! Wish I could get notifications on my phone for this group!!
 
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Hi! It’s great! My water is cycled and readings are perfect the fish are hungry little pigs. I’m so happy I finally bit the bullet and built it!!
Sorry took me so long to respond!! Wish I could get notifications on my phone for this group!!
Wonderful!

it fine :) I do
Wish we could get phone notifs though.
 

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