It's been a while but I'm finally thinking of a new build..... please help!!


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Would I have to wait 6 months to apply a product like this?

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It would depend. If your supplier is like mine the wood is stored inside and is already dry. I stained mine a couple days after I cut it to fit and then installed. Going on three years and all good never peeled. If the wood is wet when you pick it up then yes you will have to wait until dry. FYI Thompson's is terrible not much better than water and Behr's is almost as bad. Olympic is the best I have found.
 

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I suggested that you wait jhn also said the same . PRESSURE TREATED LUMBER IS WOOD THAT IS PLACED IN A LARGE DRUM IT IS CLOSED LIKE A PRESSURE COOKER AND THEY INCREASE THE PRESSURE . thus injecting the chemicals into the wood. The wood then needs time to dry properly . Do as you would like you may get lucky and have no problems but if you want a good job where the sealer has a chance to soak in to dry wood and it does it's job the wait the 6 months it will go by fast.
 
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So as ya’all know I’m still in these planning stages but I thought I would share the plans I’ve drawn up so far..... I used an app to help draw out my landscaping to scale the best that I could. Wood koi pond isn’t a standard option so I had to be a little creative. The hand drawn plans are to very roughly map out my plants, and the patio one was so I can determine where/how I want to hang string lighting across the patio. Tell me what you all think and any suggestions you may have
 
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The big black square is actually my air conditioner. The bench beside the pond, is a DIY with cinder blocks and 4x4 posts. The little cluster the light strings are attached to are also going to be a DIY similar to this:
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The fire pit on the patio will be a propane pit and the one out in my yard will be wood burning.
 
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I have to give you an A+ For planning this out my only question is will the bog be big enough.?
 
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And finally these are the backyard before pictures.

3 years ago I cleaned it up, and tried to to do a stock tank pond which failed. Never intended to be here long enough to do a full garden, so I didn’t want to invest at the time in amending the clay soil or really planting anything. I have since completely neglected it entirely. So everything is over grown and in terrible shape.
The whole project is a complete overhaul, I will be tilling and bringing in peat moss and quality dirt, building the pond and buying new furniture, cleaning and repainting my little bistro set. Tearing down and getting rid of everything to do with that stock tank. My BF is a tree guy so he is going to trim up the low hanging branches on the trees. There was a burn pit in my yard but it’s over grown now too, so if I don’t run out of money before I get that, I’ll do it too, otherwise that part might be next years project. That’s where I am standing in the last picture.
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I have to give you an A+ For planning this out my only question is will the bog be big enough.?
The bog is 1/3 the surface area of the pond. The pond will be 8x6, the bog is 8x2. Haven’t decided yet if I’m going to do 12 or 18” deep yet.
 
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The bog is 1/3 the surface area of the pond. The pond will be 8x6, the bog is 8x2. Haven’t decided yet if I’m going to do 12 or 18” deep yet.
And also this area is part sun/shade.... it’s on the east side of my house and between the two fences and the two trees there isn’t much direct sunlight. There’s gonna be a lot of Hostas! LOL
 
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I am a absolute firm believer in over filtering.
 
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I am a absolute firm believer in over filtering.
Me too!! LOL! I am leaving an option open for an additional filter like this one:
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But I want to see how the bog does first without it. And I’m only intending 3 koi to start, if it proves to do well then I’ll bump that up to 5.

My last pond was in full sun from sunrise to sunset, only maybe 200 gallons more than this will be, and I was able to stock and keep perfect water with about 18 - 7”-18” koi and one weird 10” black goldfish.

But, I really don’t want that many this time, just 3-5 large pretty butterfly koi.
 
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I know several folks here rely on those canisters as there only filter so they can't be all bad, I never used a pond canister i jumped right to the bog
 
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I’ve really really missed the like, meditative peace that comes with ponding and koi since getting my divorce. I don’t love my backyard, which is why I’ve neglected it. The white door on the right is a storage room that house the water softener for mine and my neighbors houses (I live in a duplex) and I kid you not..... that little room is literally like ground zero nesting ground from the movie Arachnophobia. And I am debilitatingly terrified of spiders. I am going to set a bomb off on that room and the little path that leaves access through my garden to the door, will be lined on both sides with catmint to deter them from ever coming back. I’m happy that with an above ground pond I can at least spray some home defense around the base of the pond and all around my patio once everything is finished and then I’ll be able to sit out there without having panic attacks that these things are going to come out and get me!! LMFAO!
 
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I know several folks here rely on those canisters as there only filter so they can't be all bad, I never used a pond canister i jumped right to the bog
I’ve never used one before either, and have heard good things too. I don’t want to have to need it, which is why I’m going to wait to install it. But I’m going to make sure I leave room in the design to easily add it later. I love the natural approach of a bog. And honestly I think they do such a better job much more easily since your working with nature to do what she intended anyway!
 
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the movie Arachnophobia. And I am debilitatingly terrified of spiders. I am going to set a bomb off on that room and the little path that leaves access through my garden to the door, will be lined on both sides with catmint to deter them from ever coming back. I’m happy that with an above ground pond I can at least spray some home defense around the base of the pond and all around my patio once everything is finished and then I’ll be able to sit out there without having panic attacks that these things are going to come out and get me!! LMFAO!
UM MM MMMMM You do realize that if it was to scale that if you were the spider in size the object that you would frighten would be about 400 feet tall.... WHAT COULD YOU POSSIBLY DO TO SOMETHING OF THAT SIZE ????????? SO THE SPIDER WILL DO WHAT TO YOU ?????


I would since you like planning look into a looking glass window to your pond. i imagine there are complete sets of plans out there especially since the brits love there raised ponds so. if i had to do a raised it would HAVE to have a window very cool look. it's like the fish are sitting at the patio with you.
 
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UM MM MMMMM You do realize that if it was to scale that if you were the spider in size the object that you would frighten would be about 400 feet tall.... WHAT COULD YOU POSSIBLY DO TO SOMETHING OF THAT SIZE ????????? SO THE SPIDER WILL DO WHAT TO YOU ?????


I would since you like planning look into a looking glass window to your pond. i imagine there are complete sets of plans out there especially since the brits love there raised ponds so. if i had to do a raised it would HAVE to have a window very cool look. it's like the fish are sitting at the patio with you.
Have you seen the movie!!!
I actually got bit a couple years ago by a mystery spider..... that bite ate a hole in my leg! It was horrible!
I’ve seen the windows and they are super cool!! But I was worried that it would be difficult to regulate the temperature in the winter, making it harder for me to keep it from freezing solid. I usually keep a pump going so a hole stays in the surface of the ice, but I’ve never had any luck with heaters. I’ve tried several and they either don’t work or they burn out super fast.
Any idea how to keep it insulated with a window and yeah I would be all for it!
 
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Have you seen the movie!!!
I actually got bit a couple years ago by a mystery spider..... that bite ate a hole in my leg! It was horrible!
I’ve seen the windows and they are super cool!! But I was worried that it would be difficult to regulate the temperature in the winter, making it harder for me to keep it from freezing solid. I usually keep a pump going so a hole stays in the surface of the ice, but I’ve never had any luck with heaters. I’ve tried several and they either don’t work or they burn out super fast.
Any idea how to keep it insulated with a window and yeah I would be all for it!
use the same insulation to block up the looking glass window in the winter and when you want to check on them just pull off the insulation. and in the spring remove the insulation from over the looking glass

Don't need a movie i was just trying to calm you down a bit my buddy got bit by a brown recluse and it ate 1/3 of his calf muscle
 
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use the same insulation to block up the looking glass window in the winter and when you want to check on them just pull off the insulation. and in the spring remove the insulation from over the looking glass

Don't need a movie i was just trying to calm you down a bit my buddy got bit by a brown recluse and it ate 1/3 of his calf muscle
Wow that is horrible!! I have a huge scar that runs down the side of my leg. Shattered femur when I was young. What ever kind bit me, bit me right on that scar tissue and I’m convinced that why it wasn’t much worse and only ended up being a quarter sized hole.

Thats a great idea for the insulation.... okay now I’m going to have to look into this....

Anyone every try those plexiglass tower things that bring the fish up above the pond surface? Can’t remember now what it’s called....
 
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elevator and I have not tried it because they are a challenge to fill lift support and CLEAN your lucky if you get 4 days before the glass needs cleaning Inside and out. i definitely wouldn't try it until the pond stabilized
 
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