Koi laying on his side

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    Makes sense... I do have loose stone/gravel in the streams. the whole bottom is gravel. I don't have an extra filter pad but can pick on up tomorrow at the store. There are two in bio-fall, so I think I can use one and just replace with a new one. I'm assuming that won't be an issue as long as I keep on old one still in there?
     
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    I presume you're not gonna hear the tub and it will be in an I heated basement or garage. If that's the case then you need a thermostat and watch the water temperature. Feeding and filter is based on that. If your water goes below 50, then minimal feeding and filter is needed... just don't allow it to get too cold like the outside else you'll have the same problem.
     
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    Thanks for the canister info Ruben. online shopping now. I did have an extra aquascape air pump with two stone bubblers that I put in the tank. So at least getting some good air until I get the filtration canister. You've all been great and I really appreciate the "newbie" help. rob
     
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    Hi Faebinder... The tub is in my garage that's kept between 50-55F. I'll make sure to keep an eye on the temp. Now that you mentioned food... I'm assuming I should try to feed a bit since they're in temps at or slightly above 50F now?? I'll try a little wheatgerm based tomorrow. right now I think they're a little stressed with all the change.
     
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    I wouldn't worry about feeding them right now, just get them settled into the new set up.
     
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    Right that's what I would do, after they settle feed once a day wheat germ based food while 50-55.
     
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    remember go by water temps and not the temp. in the garage .My temps. here swing up and down like a yoyo ,but so far no problems .I have gone from 28 degrees at night to 70degrees during the day .I hope they are OK
     
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    Hi sissy, Yep, I do have a thermometer in the tank for water temp. Just checked on how their first night went. they look really good, water temp is exactly 50F. Ordered a canister filter and hopefully have that in place by Saturday. I'm assuming I should be OK with just the two bubbler stones until then??
     
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    remember with your canister filter to flush it often and to keep ammonia down you can use zeolite .That will be your biggest worry .I always keep some in my filters in my pond
     
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    I never used Zeolite. first I've heard of it. Do you use in a media bag in the canister or just mix powder in water when levels come up? Sorry, still learning.
     
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    Hi All,, sorry for more questions, but I' have had the 100 Gal tank running now for a month with a new eheim Pro4+ 600 canister filter system, which is made for up to 160 gallons. But I can't get the Ammonia levels to go down. they remain high but the nitrite levels are zero. All other tests are good. ph is around 8. I do weekly partial water changes about 40%. The fish seem fine, but I can't get the ammonia down. should I be concerned, or still give the canister some more time to adjust? The eheim canister does have zeolite type filteration as part of it. also, one other point, I also use a fine fish net to remove fish waste that doesn't go to filter to help reduce. Any insight would be appreciated .
     
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    What is the numeric Ammonia level? What is the current water temperature?
     
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    2.5 ppm and the water temp stays steady around 52-54 F...
     
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    I had one of my very large 24" koi start floating on his side after a summer night of severe storms here in Richmond, Va. He looked just fine so I put him in a kiddie pool I placed in my greenhouse to protect from predators. Assuming air bladder issues, I added salt and antibiotics over a couple of months, tried to get him to eat, but nothing seemed to make him better. After three months, I reintroduced him into one of my smaller ponds only to find him DOA a couple of days later. None of the other 20+ fish in the pond ever showed any issues. Perhaps he just got too old. I don't know more than the above and was very sorry at his demise as I had him for almost 20 years. Best of luck to you.
     
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