Thats true, Patti, if I get thru till cold weather with them thats OK--I want to eventually run 110 v power all around my patio so I will probably change to a different lighting system when I do. Ive been wanting to run power for some time both around the pond the patio and the back deck we built a couple years ago but its the same old battle when I have the time I dont have the money or VisaVersa, or if I have both its just not as high up my Priority list as other projects, lol, I just figure oh well I'm not in a race with anybody and I will get it done someday. Right now my biggest priority is getting my pontoon to run right. I knew I needed to put new sparkplugs on it this year so I replaced them before putting it in the lake and its ran like crap ever since--yesterday at a boat dealer I talked to the mechanic about it, he told me that the plugs I bought at Autozone that were supposed to cross reference over to be the same as my Mercury plugs couldnt be because Mercurys plugs are designed just for my Mercury Optimax and autozone is full of $h#t if they said theirs were the same, he laughed when I said I bought all 3 for $14 bucks--I wasnt laughing after paying $90 bucks to him for all 3 then, but after changing a vapor filter for 50 bucks 2 weeks ago(which did need changed it turned out) adding a second auxzillary filter(which I probably didnt need) changing all the old gas out of my tank, then adding injector cleaners and seafoam out the wahzoo --if this fixes it I will be happy since the alternative is to yank the boat and take it to the dealer. Sorry for the Rant everybody but I have a LOVE/HATE relationship with my boat, anyway back to ponds and gardens, which are a lot less stressfull, LOL. To your question Tmann, not long--they usually start dying about midnight--but thats OK, thats about as late as we sit out by the Fire Pit.