It's interesting, but sad when we've had new members post, all in a panic...... They ask for help, but sometimes they are vague with their information, like they're holding something back. So we keep asking questions and offering advice, 'til we finally get to the point where we realize this chick or dude is gonna do his or her own thing no matter what advice we give.....and there seems to be a disregard for the well-being of the fish.
They're sure they're right -- and we never hear from them again....... Until we see where they've posted to another forum, and oh, guess what? Didn't QT fish; didn't cut back on fish load and now have a tank full of sick & ulcerated fish! And the worst part? They still sound clueless and giving run-around answers, in denial about the real cause of their problems.
I don't get it.
Maggie we are here because we love our combined hobbies of goldfish and koi,however unlike the vast majority fishkeepers who think a fish lives a while then dies "heIl I'll just buy me a new one", but some of us become more curious and its because of that weve gone futher than others ever will do.into the fish health side of things and once learned we are wlling to help.
Weve gained a working knowledge of fish health issues we pass on that knowledge, some are grateful but others (well youve already said it).....however its the grateful who then go on to pick up those books and who learn from them.
They in turn pass on the message :- "Hey did you know there's another side to fish keeping thats even more interesting and is really cool to know and thats fish health". then weve done our job and can smile when we see someone else blossom .......(thats why we help out.)........
You can give people advice from your experience and what you know to be true but it's a crap shoot, if they're going to listen or not. All's I can say is you tried to help them but if they don't listen theres not much you can do

. Makes you wonder why they even come here for help ????
mtpond that is so very true my friend however if you continue to give that same advice time and time again then you've done your best
It makes you wonder sometimes why they even came here for help !!!!.... that shouldnt enter into it , that way leads to major headaches for yourself because its making you say , to hell with it why should I pass on knowledge gained why not just keep it to myself .
When I ran KKU it almost caused me to Breakdown twice after getting into that way of thinking
Have you ever noticed how often these people get conflicting advice when they ask a question?
Ask the question "how to get rid of green water"? and see how many different answers you get.
Randy look at it this way even we can take away knowledge , they may even have a better way of getting rid of green algae etc including treating ulcers and us using ozone to treat and cure our koi with Koi Clear Gel over conventional treatment
When at last Koi Clear Gel is licenced for use in the US your going to remember that thread about the holy grail of ulcer treatments and buy a tub ready for use should it be needed in your fridge
Try asking 10 beekeepers what is the best thing to do, you will get at least 15 answers that this is the only way to do it!
There are so many ways to do things, like a uv to get rid of green water, some think that is the only way. Well not really, so yep multiple answers.
Thats so very true addy its an infomation exchange if you'll let it be
Dave