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Pssshhh...That setup is awesome, very cool get the best of two worlds keeping fish and birds all in the same space.

Like the look from above as well as below the one plants leaves remind me of mangroves...whichreminds me I have some planted (mangroves trees) in my bog that I need to bring in before they die. Going to try and get them going and bigger this winter to put in the pond again next spring.
 
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That's cool sh-t i love mangroves. what i'd really like around my pond is cypress roots and there's opportunity to get some around here so don't be surprised
 

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@Jeremydmeyer76 just wanted to say welcome to the forum and good luck in your pond build! You already seem to have a better handle on the pond build than I did when I built mine. ;)
 

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Thanks. With all that I know now, there is much I would change. :)
Keep the pictures coming of your pond build!
 
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I have almost given up with freshwater aquariums, they are just so hard to get right, ponds are so much easier.

saltwater is just so much easier to make look nice and function well, although the same probably couldn't be said with a saltwater pond.....
I gave up my tanks because I felt sorry for the fish in that tight space..hek even my 5,400 gl pond seems small now
 
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I have glass to build a 7 foot long 30 inch wide and 30" deep pumps undergravel/ bed heater led lights all the fixins but not sure if it will become salt or planted. the planted did go with the colors of the living room and the salt while far more intresting in life . the colors being deep blues and purples it just doesn't flow with the room like the planted tank did . i'd love to have about a dozen ghost blennies with one outcrop of poping zenia
I'll never go back to saltwater. At one point I had nearly 400 gallons of open saltwater tanks in my house and the salty humidity definitely took it's toll on all things metal in my home. My air vents rusted and everything in my basement ended up having a sticky layer of salty corrosive film on it. In only had a 125 gallon display upstairs but had over 300 gallon coral propagation tanks downstairs and was runnin close to 3k watts in metal halides.

I was selling insane amounts of SPS corals onnreef central at the time and was actually making decent money every month so at the time the price was worth it. I ended up getting a bad case of acro eating flatworms and it forced me to shut the entire system down and downgrade.

I kept smaller single tanks for a long time after that but eventually sold them all.

I then decided to build a vivarium and raise dart frogs which had a small water feature. I successfully bred Dendrobates Azureus for a couple years but eventually got tired of always needing to make fruit fly cultures and sold off all my stock. I kept the vivarium for several years and ended up stocking it with several species of mini orchids which led me to be a big plant lover.

Fast forward a few years and I decided to try my hand raising freshwater dwarf shrimp. I built a fully automated shrimp breeding rack.

Shorty after that I setup my first high tech planted tank which is the 80 gallon rimless in the picture.
 

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I'll never go back to saltwater. At one point I had nearly 400 gallons of open saltwater tanks in my house and the salty humidity definitely took it's toll on all things metal in my home. My air vents rusted and everything in my basement ended up having a sticky layer of salty corrosive film on it. In only had a 125 gallon display upstairs but had over 300 gallon coral propagation tanks downstairs and was runnin close to 3k watts in metal halides.
salt how ever does not evaporate it only gets air born through misting
 
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salt how ever does not evaporate it only gets air born through misting
Valid point. As it evaporates the minerals stay behind. That doesn't explain the layer of sticky salty slime that eventually covered everything in the room. I'm sure theres a scientific reason probably dealing with what happens when humidity levels get extremely elevated.

Either way, I'm not going back.

One species of fish I have never kept are discus. I've worked at several aquarium shops in the area and was always intrigued by them. Before I started digging I thought about doing a 180 gallon planted discus tank. But decided I wanted to spend more time outside than the basement.
 
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Valid point. As it evaporates the minerals stay behind. That doesn't explain the layer of sticky salty slime that eventually covered everything in the room. I'm sure theres a scientific reason probably dealing with what happens when humidity levels get extremely elevated.

Either way, I'm not going back.

One species of fish I have never kept are discus. I've worked at several aquarium shops in the area and was always intrigued by them. Before I started digging I thought about doing a 180 gallon planted discus tank. But decided I wanted to spend more time outside than the basement.
That is almost how I feel, I get more enjoyment out of my one 10 gallon tank on the main floor than all four in the basement, it just isn’t the place to be
 

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I'll never go back to saltwater. At one point I had nearly 400 gallons of open saltwater tanks in my house and the salty humidity definitely took it's toll on all things metal in my home. My air vents rusted and everything in my basement ended up having a sticky layer of salty corrosive film on it. In only had a 125 gallon display upstairs but had over 300 gallon coral propagation tanks downstairs and was runnin close to 3k watts in metal halides.

I was selling insane amounts of SPS corals onnreef central at the time and was actually making decent money every month so at the time the price was worth it. I ended up getting a bad case of acro eating flatworms and it forced me to shut the entire system down and downgrade.

I kept smaller single tanks for a long time after that but eventually sold them all.

I then decided to build a vivarium and raise dart frogs which had a small water feature. I successfully bred Dendrobates Azureus for a couple years but eventually got tired of always needing to make fruit fly cultures and sold off all my stock. I kept the vivarium for several years and ended up stocking it with several species of mini orchids which led me to be a big plant lover.

Fast forward a few years and I decided to try my hand raising freshwater dwarf shrimp. I built a fully automated shrimp breeding rack.

Shorty after that I setup my first high tech planted tank which is the 80 gallon rimless in the picture.
Very nice tanks! My big tank is a mess.

however I just got a reply from my lfs saying that they would take my fish from it!

time to shut it down!!

yes I am exited cause it is a maintenance nightmare and ugly constantly......

since I have a nice grow light on it I was thinking of growing Lilly’s and lotuses from seed this winter in it, that would be fun.

Oh also, forgot to say, congrats for the fastest moving thread probably ever on gpf, this is almost like r2r!

Also sorry for going off topic, we really should be doing this in the aquariums section but ynow.
 
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Just got done trenching for the bottom drain, skimmer, and electrical. It cost me $100 for the trencher but saved me days of digging. I can't believe how hard the ground is right now.

We could really use some rain but that means od have to cover everything to prevent washouts.

I should be able to get the electrical done today and hopefully be able to start plumbing soon so the liner can get installed.

I'm done working right now because I'm going boulder shopping.
 

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Just got done trenching for the bottom drain, skimmer, and electrical. It cost me $100 for the trencher but saved me days of digging. I can't believe how hard the ground is right now.

We could really use some rain but that means od have to cover everything to prevent washouts.

I should be able to get the electrical done today and hopefully be able to start plumbing soon so the liner can get installed.

I'm done working right now because I'm going boulder shopping.
not sure if you indicated where you are (re zone, frost level) but I'd make sure any plumbing that might have water in it over winter in freezing temp zones, is BELOW the frost level (or, you blow it out before winter). You don't want a leak due to splitting pipe and having to dig it up. I put all my pipe inside the pond or bog and have allowances for whatever is exposed to freezing weather so it doesn't split. It also insures if there is a leak, all the water stays in the pond and not out.
 
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not sure if you indicated where you are (re zone, frost level) but I'd make sure any plumbing that might have water in it over winter in freezing temp zones, is BELOW the frost level (or, you blow it out before winter). You don't want a leak due to splitting pipe and having to dig it up. I put all my pipe inside the pond or bog and have allowances for whatever is exposed to freezing weather so it doesn't split. It also insures if there is a leak, all the water stays in the pond and not out.
I'm in zone 6a I believe. I can't get the plumbing down below frost so I'll be making sure all the plumbing falls down back into the skimmer. During winter shut down I'll just pull the check valve out of the skimmer and drain the waterfall, pump and the line all back into the pond. I'm also using flex everywhere I can so that will help some.

My pond guy has built a lot of ponds like this around here and he is going to assist me on the plumbing.

Thanks for the tip.
 
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Just got done trenching for the bottom drain, skimmer, and electrical. It cost me $100 for the trencher but saved me days of digging. I can't believe how hard the ground is right now.

We could really use some rain but that means od have to cover everything to prevent washouts.

I should be able to get the electrical done today and hopefully be able to start plumbing soon so the liner can get installed.

I'm done working right now because I'm going boulder shopping.
Nice work!

that so expensive for a rental of a trencher, but my local hardware store is super cheap, just make sure you ge tit cleaned up before you send it back,they really don’t like you if you don’t!

all I can say is it all gets more enjoyable when the digging phase is done :)
 
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Nice work!

that so expensive for a rental of a trencher, but my local hardware store is super cheap, just make sure you ge tit cleaned up before you send it back,they really don’t like you if you don’t!

all I can say is it all gets more enjoyable when the digging phase is done :)
The "ghetto but always runs" rental place I usually use didnt have anything this small so I had to use the expensive place.

The way I see it as this. I got a quote from my local Certified Aquascape Contractor do do all this work (fun) for me and was quoted nearly $40k. Mind you it would have probably been beyond amazing because they do awesome work. I just couldn't see paying that much for something I enjoy enjoy doing anyway.

I do wish I could just hire them to do the rock work and waterfall/stream thing because I'm still super nervous about getting that right and everything I see them do blows my mind.
 

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The "ghetto but always runs" rental place I usually use didnt have anything this small so I had to use the expensive place.

The way I see it as this. I got a quote from my local Certified Aquascape Contractor do do all this work (fun) for me and was quoted nearly $40k. Mind you it would have probably been beyond amazing because they do awesome work. I just couldn't see paying that much for something I enjoy enjoy doing anyway.

I do wish I could just hire them to do the rock work and waterfall/stream thing because I'm still super nervous about getting that right and everything I see them do blows my mind.
That would be awsome! You dig the hole and get some of the plumbing and stuff done, and they do the stuff that sets them apart, rockwork!
 
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Made more progress today. I installed a dual pole 20 amp GFCI breaker in the garage and ran the electrical to the 2 new outlets each on their own circuit. Fun stuff!

This week I plan on getting the plumbing roughed in and do more shaping to the berm.

I'll be getting my first load of rock dropped off tomorrow as well.

Getting closer everyday.
 

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