your fish food is it good or bad

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    Dave 54

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    HI Tim many thanx for your kind compliments , I met an American Man online many Moons ago called Spike cover he was head of the AKCA Health forum and we have been omline friends for many years now talking about Fish Disease Books Koi Books Fish Phtsiology Fish Pathology etc.
    In fact as my interest in all things koi and Fish health Grew I found I was also putting together a 100 book and counting reference library dedicated to fish and their health.
    Those Goldfish must be some sort of super Fish, to have basically been dropped into an alien enviroment with lots of things that have you firmly on their menu's , then on top of that big freezes and survive that is astounding to say the very least .
    As to a small attempt at a peaceful area we live in the UK in split flats with a split garden, we are hopefully this year going to finish the cosmetic side of our pond.
    Then the real work can begin in turning it into our little haven of peace in a mad bad world [mind in saying that its been like that for 5 years now but just not finished .
    Could you please catch one of these golfish and take a photo I'd like to see if they differ in any form to their softer cousins

    Dave
     
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    Timothy Proprietor "Frog's Neck Inn"

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    You're welcome and deserved.
    I have a friend down the lane that has the pond I mentioned. 30 some years ago when the last of his brood left home to make his mark on the world, John told him to give away the goldfish because they (the parents) weren't going to deal with them. A couple of days later the fish bowl showed up empty, washed, and dry. As John told me the story, nobody thought any more about it for quite a while. One day John noticed a heron standing on the bank of the pond studying something in the water. He watched and pretty soon the heron had a good sized goldfish in his beak.
    Fast forward to eight years ago when I got my current dog, we started taking our walks down the lane and I'd throw a stick or something for Buddy and he'd bring it back. One time I threw a tennis ball and it took a weird bounce landing in the pond. I tried to coerce Bud into going after it, but he'd have none of that. (He knew there more at the house).
    At any rate, that's when I saw a couple fish lounging close to the surface. From that time on I'd check each time we walked down that way to see if I could spot them again. They were very timid, and spooked easily, but I'd catch glimpses now and again.
    Fast forward once again to four years ago when I converted my swimming pool to a pond. I bought a cast net and "stocked" my pond with fish I caught at John's.
    I'd be happy to get a couple of photo's. Give me a day or two and I'll start a new thread in "General Chat" so I don't use up anymore of Sissy's thread.
    Tim
     
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    So... back to fish food (although I did get all caught up in the goldfish part, too!). I had been feeding Hikari Gold, and Hikari Wheat Germ (fall/Spring). I'm actually now switching to the Blue Ridge Platinum Pro because, while it does have some "filler" ingredients, it is chock full of good stuff like vitamins and a probiotic immune supplement.

    I seriously wish I could get my fish to enjoy some fruits and greens!!! They do love shrimp, and I LOVE feeding those to them as a treat. But any fruit I've tried, they just ignore. :(
    Is there a trick to getting them to like it?

    I've never given them dog food, but they might love it considering my spoiled Frenchies eat a grain-free venison and sweet potato food. LOL
     
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    I'm curious if there is any advantage to not feeding a high protein food during the summer, but rather keeping koi/ fish, on a lighter wheat germ diet. Protein in food, is the biggest contributor to ammonia ...I'm just curious.
     
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    I think, @Tula , and this is just me thinking--not an expert--that the protein is mainly for growth. So I believe it's 100% fine to not feed protein, and they would just grow more slowly. In many ways, I think that's a super idea, because then I wouldn't max out my pond capacity so quickly!! :p

    With them being "opportunistic feeders" by nature, and general scavengers, I'm pretty sure they don't truly need all that protein. But again--I'm no expert! And they sure do love all that shrimp and krill.
     
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    I've always switched to a higher protein food in the summer, but am truly curious. I just want what's best for them :) I'm going to try the ring of watermelon to see if they enjoy it!
     
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    waynefrcan 15 years ponding and hopefully 15 more!

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    With all the junk in it I make sure not to water the veg garden or fruit trees with pond water. Some fish meds and food ingredients are on the cancer list for humans.
     
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