[QUOTE="Suzanne Northcutt, post: 349499, member: 9649"]OK, I wanted to get you acurate information. so I went out and measured my pond. I'm so silly, my pond liner is 40x60. The actual edges of my pond are only 39x36. This is good news. So, my 60 gym pump should be fine, right? Or should I add a second one. So, the three inch pipe is, I believe, are just like an under gravel filter we find in aquariums. They are buried beneath a couple inches of 3/4 River Rock. They use air to suction water down through the gravel. Some of those pipes push air and water up at the surface and two push the water into the pea gravel lining the edges of the pond where plants are. Then I have one 30 ft pipe, also with 1/4 inch holes every 6 inches. It carries water to the 60 gym pump, then to a sand filter, and then some water returns via the Waterfall and some returns via the soaker hose in the pea gravel with plants.[/QUOTE]\n\nThat's a novel approach.;)\nUGF's in aquariums though, rely on a plenum that's under the entire substrate.\nI wonder about the ability of the airlift method you are using to draw water through the gravel and up into the planted area. I think what will happen is that there will be a small amount of water flow through the area that's closest to the airlift, and that's it. Plus you have the pipes spread out every 6 feet or so. The substrate between the pipes will still accumulate detritus.\n\nThe new measurements do reduce the total gallon volume of your pond, but what's required for long term success is enough water circulation so that detritus doesn't have a chance to accumulate and can be in suspension until removed by mechanical means. Sand filters are designed to remove fine particles from swimming pools, not the larger debris associated with ponds that have plants and wildlife. Your pond volume is still 31,000 gallons. You need about 10 times your current water flow to deal with settling detritus, and that's if we can find an effective water circulation pattern.\n\nWhat are your long term plans for the pond?\n\nAt this point I think it's going to be a lot of work and expense to design your pond with sufficient water circulation and filtration so that it will be successful in the long term.\nDepending on how much organic debris gets blown into the pond during the year, and from my experience, I think you will be dealing with an uncontrollable nuisance algae problem within 3 years and will be looking to disassemble the pond.\nSorry, I wish I had a more optimistic opinion for you.