Are there any submersible lights that won't leak?


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Every submersible pond spotlight I have used over the years leaks water and dies within a couple years. Is this typical? I'm hesitant to pay more for a light hoping they won't leak. Does price generally indicate quality? Reviews usually don't help because it takes a couple years for them to die, and folks don't usually write reviews on years old purchases....
Can anyone recommend a light that won't leak and die within, say, 5 years or more?
Looking for 12v, led lights.
Thanks!
 
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I cant speak from experience on what i plan to use but maybe someone else has and can chime in. I am going to be trying to extremes of the cost factor, on the inexpensive side I will use these 12 v 10 w lights I found online and got 5 of them for 5.00 and on the other end of the cost spectrum I plan to use a couple American Products Co. 12v 100w Submersible pool lights
 

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I cant speak from experience on what i plan to use but maybe someone else has and can chime in. I am going to be trying to extremes of the cost factor, on the inexpensive side I will use these 12 v 10 w lights I found online and got 5 of them for 5.00 and on the other end of the cost spectrum I plan to use a couple American Products Co. 12v 100w Submersible pool lights

Please let us know how these work out. $1 each for a submersible light? wow,.. that is cheap.
I've been thinking about waterproof (IP68 rated) led tape lights, like this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Waterproof...er-LED-Rope-Lights-SMD-5050-RGB-/292104532037
I was even thinking about putting them inside of a clear polyvinyl tube to guarantee that no water even touches the tape, to get a very long life (>5yrs?). Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Vinyl-Tubing-Clear-Flexible-Length/dp/B001D9V1X2
I'm hoping for more comments from experienced folks. This must be a common problem....
thanks
 
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We paid A LOT for our submersible lights and it's my one pond regret - they cracked the first year they were in the pond. However I won't say the brand because I don't believe it was specifically their fault. The lights should have been installed deeper, so they wouldn't be at the level that would freeze. Don't ask me why we didn't figure that out! And I guess I could blame the manufacturer, as they could have mentioned it in the installation instructions! But when we do replace them, we will choose something more moderately priced.
 
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Please let us know how these work out. $1 each for a submersible light? wow,.. that is cheap.
I've been thinking about waterproof (IP68 rated) led tape lights, like this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Waterproof...er-LED-Rope-Lights-SMD-5050-RGB-/292104532037
I was even thinking about putting them inside of a clear polyvinyl tube to guarantee that no water even touches the tape, to get a very long life (>5yrs?). Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Vinyl-Tubing-Clear-Flexible-Length/dp/B001D9V1X2
I'm hoping for more comments from experienced folks. This must be a common problem....
thanks
I certainly will. Slight typo on my part though 5.00 was for the cheap ones.
 
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We paid A LOT for our submersible lights and it's my one pond regret - they cracked the first year they were in the pond. However I won't say the brand because I don't believe it was specifically their fault. The lights should have been installed deeper, so they wouldn't be at the level that would freeze. Don't ask me why we didn't figure that out! And I guess I could blame the manufacturer, as they could have mentioned it in the installation instructions! But when we do replace them, we will choose something more moderately priced.

So glad you mentioned that I had not yet 100% planned to place mine below the frost line. Now I will for sure.
 
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So glad you mentioned that I had not yet 100% planned to place mine below the frost line. Now I will for sure.

It's one of those "duh" moments when you think of COURSE the lens cracked... it froze. Ugh. And once it cracks the water flows in and that's the end of that. The housing itself is made of brass; the lens is plastic.
 

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Mrsclem, thinking about getting those lights, good to know they have lasted 3 years.

3 to 4 years is about the most I have gotten out of my pond lights. I like them for my front pond to light up the Japanese maple tree on the island in the middle of the pond and the waterfall. The ones I had crapped out after 2 years last summer.
 
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I quit lighting my pond. Before the heron started visiting and I had to net the pond I had pond lights. Well found out a owl was enjoying the easy to see fish and fishing. So they get a nice black night.

Now I have the pond netted all of the time, but still leaving it dark at night. Herons fly over almost every day.
 

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I quit lighting my pond. Before the heron started visiting and I had to net the pond I had pond lights. Well found out a owl was enjoying the easy to see fish and fishing. So they get a nice black night.

Now I have the pond netted all of the time, but still leaving it dark at night. Herons fly over almost every day.
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Being a builder I do believe you get what you pay for within reason, and seeing as these lights will be buried in stone. I didn't go cheap, I went for 6 of the Aquascape 1 watt led all I can say thus far is one light was defective when I received it and I notified the seller and Aquascapes stood by there product and are shipping out a replacement.
 

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Being a builder I do believe you get what you pay for within reason, and seeing as these lights will be buried in stone. I didn't go cheap, I went for 6 of the Aquascape 1 watt led all I can say thus far is one light was defective when I received it and I notified the seller and Aquascapes stood by there product and are shipping out a replacement.
Thanks for the reply. Are these the lights your are referring to?
https://www.amazon.com/Aquascape-Su...00GMQ9HDC/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
The reviews on the Amazon site for these lights range form "very bad" to "great" (like usual). Have you had any problems with these leaking? How long have they been in your pond? Thanks again!
 
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Being a builder I do believe you get what you pay for within reason, and seeing as these lights will be buried in stone. I didn't go cheap, I went for 6 of the Aquascape 1 watt led all I can say thus far is one light was defective when I received it and I notified the seller and Aquascapes stood by there product and are shipping out a replacement.
Completely understandable depending on the product, the purpose and the situation. For example when an item goes on clearance. I will use plants there is no way that I could put the amount of plants in my yard that I have at full price like 70.00 trees for 10.00 or 5.00 plats for .25. Another example is when the economy drives the price and you can buy the item from another economy. Many times I have made purchases on Canada's ebay that are listed much less than the American ebay. Or when America drives up the price of a product that is cheaper if you buy it over seas. Just my 2 cents I am bigger on finding the quality of an item sometimes through trial and error depending on the consumable risk to cost ratio. When it comes to lights I don't have a clue seems that you run that risk no matter what so I would rather go with cheap at first and work up. Now the turbos that were on a custom build I had I paid a pretty penny.
 
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Thanks for the reply. Are these the lights your are referring to?
https://www.amazon.com/Aquascape-Su...00GMQ9HDC/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
The reviews on the Amazon site for these lights range form "very bad" to "great" (like usual). Have you had any problems with these leaking? How long have they been in your pond? Thanks again!


Like I said I have not installed them as yet. I Have done a lot of reading and I have seen where no one takes into consideration of ICE I doubt there's many lights out there that are designed to withstand ice. I have read several blogs where the lights were leaking and I have noticed the lights within a foot from the surface. I plan on running conduit to each light The lights will undoubtedly fail in time.
 
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@rrr - we have those lights, but we use them as spotlights outside the pond, not underwater. We've had them since the pond went in in 2012, they go on for several hours every night - still work great!
 

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@rrr - we have those lights, but we use them as spotlights outside the pond, not underwater. We've had them since the pond went in in 2012, they go on for several hours every night - still work great!
Thanks!
 
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My underwater lights and cameras survived this winter with no damage. I try not to move them more than necessary as it seems that the cables break down . This year I ran the wires thru the center of 100 watt heaters to keep the ice from damaging the cables. Everything still working so guess that worked. Last year i wrapped the cables in pipe insulation not thinking it floats! Cables got frozen in ice.
 
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