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I think you all are talking about pumps WAY too strong for a 175 gallon plus 20 ish gallon bog. I would think a 150 - 300 gph pump would be perfectly adequate to circulate water through the bog every hour.

This is the type of basket I put the pump in surrounded by pea gravel so it takes longer before it clogs with leaves and gunk. SOmeone on this site posted that tip.


And this is probably the pumps I would get today for an under 300 gallon pond. I know nothing about the brand, it just happens to be what the closest home improvement store has in stock.

Here is a 330 gph pump for 60$ that comes with an extra aeration spray if you want to add it.


And here is a similar sized pump that comes with it's own prefilter basket for 100$ I do have one of these baskets on my waterfall pump. This could be instead of the pea gravel basket I mentioned above. An advantage to this box is that if the bog was overflowing, the pump can not pull lower than this box so there would be enough water to keep fish alive if bog sprung a leak or overflowed.


A similar sized pump is available without the aeration spray or filter box for about 40$. This may be the one I get today for my new bog.



Now that I see your pond pic, I might use a simple "window box" type planter diagonal on one of your corners, with one or 2 rows of bog piping. I would cut a little overflow area so it waterfalled back into your pond.
That’s the thing I have no idea in my mind on how to do the piping or how to install this planter on my pond. I would love to tho .
 
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I would love to see the whole piping process with diagram if possible , I have my mind set on doing the whole planter box thing but never worked with pvc before, also where exactly to open the holes for the in and out flow
 
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What you want to do is cut slits across the pvc pipes you have there instead of drilling holes they won't clog as easy. here's a link to how i did mine https://www.gardenpondforum.com/threads/going-for-it-phase-one-12-000-gallon-pond.22563/page-3 you only want to cut 1/3 of the way into the pipe i cut every 6" some cut every 3" . Your fittings will be in the gravel in the bog its ok if they leak there's no need for Teflon tape on your threaded connections. until the fittings come out of the bog then yes use Teflon to seal the threaded joints or use silicone on the threads. when the plumbing will be outside the bog.
Is your bog that plastic tub on the counter? if it is you need to try again those are not a great choice
 
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My wife would have all my round parts cut off if i ever set up in the kitchen and started working like it was my shop OMG i might as well have just slit my own throat
 

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LMAO This wife uses our kitchen as her main work area! Pond, bees, etc One reason when we redid the kitchen I required a lot of counter space and large.
My wife would have all my round parts cut off if i ever set up in the kitchen and started working like it was my shop OMG i might as well have just slit my own throat
 
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When i remodeled the kitchen 5 years ago, My wife now wants to move the bed into the kitchen she Loves her kitchen more than me and thats nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo lie. i just get the benefits to eating what comes out of there.
 
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When i remodeled the kitchen 5 years ago, My wife now wants to move the bed into the kitchen she Loves her kitchen more than me and thats nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo lie. i just get the benefits to eating what comes out of there.
ah, GB? Didcha mean to string those words together like that??? :cool:
 
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Go ahead i dare you hit Me and watch her response! she won't even blink .. Hit her counter top or a cabinet and watch the Tasmanian devil come alive.
 

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Go ahead i dare you hit Me and watch her response! she won't even blink .. Hit her counter top or a cabinet and watch the Tasmanian devil come alive.
I'd elaborate but I don't want addy to put me in a time out...still, that LAST sentence...
 
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If you opt to make any holes in the tub for pipes to pass through, the best way to go is use bulkhead fittings for a positive seal.

They come in all sizes and two varieties, one with threads in which you screw your pipes into and one that is slip where you glue your pipe into it.
 

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I put my tube in the bottom no sealing it drips right back into the pond. Corner planter bog for the hot tub pond.
 
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Hey, I did put a piece of cardboard down to protect the counter! I asked myself if it was ok to work in the kitchen, and I said yes!

You all inspired me with the waterfall weir idea. I bought a small 24$ one and cut it since I only needed the weir part, not the whole box thing. (by cut, I mean drilled a bunch of holes than used a jigsaw to cut through the holes). This is the fanciest of the 3 bogs I have done. I am great with drills, not so good with electric saws. I used a knife heated on the stove to cut through the plastic bin for the waterfall edge and caulked around it. (Caution with trying this one, I turned on the exhaust fan. But it could have been really toxic. I did not check. It did not smell bad to me.)

I was going to use a 3 inch round PVC pipe as the outlet. But the side of my bog container is at an angle and I could not figure out how to get the pipe in at an angle that would be at the right water level for the bog to drain. You can buy a drill bit that exactly fits PVC pipe sizes to make a perfect hole for an outflow.

The sticking up pipes will get covered by plants as they grow. This is not a forever bog. It is just as long as the plastic parts hold up. Which I hope is a few years.

I took pics of the pipes so people can see it. Basically, go play in the sprinkler/plumbing aisles and put together pipes/connectors that work for you. This time I did it all screw together so no glue. But that limited the diameter of pipes. There are so many ways to make a working bog.

I used drill holes vs slits in the bog pipes only because drilling is easier for me.

This is a small bog, 2 feet by 3 feet. So it is not as big a deal to remake and replace.

My dream is a larger inground pond and inground bog.

Here are the pics. Of course they posted in reverse order.

I do have the water tubing entirely in or over the pond. My main leak issue with my other bogs has been up and over the sides especially as the plant roots grow and push the rocks up and make little dams. On this one I made the outflow much bigger and much lower so I hope it never overflows on the sides.

I should have taken a pic of how cloudy my little pond got when I added the pea gravel to the bog. Even though I rinsed it first, the pond got totally murky. It has taken 24 hours for it to really clear back. Since the final pic I have added some Yerba Mansa cuttings from my neighbor. My first bog is solid with aquatic mint so I want to avoid it in this one.

The little 40$ 300gph pump puts out a really solid stream down this weir. (Not running in the pic)
 

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It has been forever since I posted but here is my current set up which is similar to you and the bog got built by a handyman whom I paid to get the wood and put together with rebar and landscape glue. I’ll show pictures of the final results if I can remember to take one. This is just a month ago.

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Hey, I did put a piece of cardboard down to protect the counter! I asked myself if it was ok to work in the kitchen, and I said yes!

You all inspired me with the waterfall weir idea. I bought a small 24$ one and cut it since I only needed the weir part, not the whole box thing. (by cut, I mean drilled a bunch of holes than used a jigsaw to cut through the holes). This is the fanciest of the 3 bogs I have done. I am great with drills, not so good with electric saws. I used a knife heated on the stove to cut through the plastic bin for the waterfall edge and caulked around it. (Caution with trying this one, I turned on the exhaust fan. But it could have been really toxic. I did not check. It did not smell bad to me.)

I was going to use a 3 inch round PVC pipe as the outlet. But the side of my bog container is at an angle and I could not figure out how to get the pipe in at an angle that would be at the right water level for the bog to drain. You can buy a drill bit that exactly fits PVC pipe sizes to make a perfect hole for an outflow.

The sticking up pipes will get covered by plants as they grow. This is not a forever bog. It is just as long as the plastic parts hold up. Which I hope is a few years.

I took pics of the pipes so people can see it. Basically, go play in the sprinkler/plumbing aisles and put together pipes/connectors that work for you. This time I did it all screw together so no glue. But that limited the diameter of pipes. There are so many ways to make a working bog.

I used drill holes vs slits in the bog pipes only because drilling is easier for me.

This is a small bog, 2 feet by 3 feet. So it is not as big a deal to remake and replace.

My dream is a larger inground pond and inground bog.

Here are the pics. Of course they posted in reverse order.

I do have the water tubing entirely in or over the pond. My main leak issue with my other bogs has been up and over the sides especially as the plant roots grow and push the rocks up and make little dams. On this one I made the outflow much bigger and much lower so I hope it never overflows on the sides.

I should have taken a pic of how cloudy my little pond got when I added the pea gravel to the bog. Even though I rinsed it first, the pond got totally murky. It has taken 24 hours for it to really clear back. Since the final pic I have added some Yerba Mansa cuttings from my neighbor. My first bog is solid with aquatic mint so I want to avoid it in this one.

The little 40$ 300gph pump puts out a really solid stream down this weir. (Not running in the pic)
Looking good! I did something similar with a basement bog for over wintering turtles. One note; be watchful of that corrugated black hose as most here will tell you, it doesn't last and leaks develope.

For something as small/shallow, you could have just used 1" pvc, half as many runs, and cut slits rather than drill holes (a lot less work), and gotten the same results. For something this shallow, you easily could have nixed the cleanouts, too. Jmho.
 
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It’s predominantly Ranchu, golden topminnows, dojo loaches and a couple of comets.
 
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My kids broke the obedient plant stalks but here it is..
lol It is not very obedient, you can bend a stalk to make it grow a different direction. Break them they come back with more shoots, send out a new stem at every stem bud.
 

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