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I am new to the forum. Looks like there is a ton of great information on here.
I live in Southern Ontario (Canada) and I have been trying to locate somewhere where I can purchase a Chinese High Fin Banded Shark for my pond. It's about 1500 gallons and I think the High Fin would make a great addition but I can't seem to locate one. There are a number of sites online where they can be purchased but all of the ones I've found thus far are in the US and don't ship to Canada.
If anyone here can provide any idea of where I might be able to get one in Ontario, I would really appreciate it.
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I'd suggest you read up as I found the hi-fin shark can 'tolerate' water temps as low as 40 deg F. I doubt your pond would stay warmer than that in Canada, unless you plan on heating it.

Sorry can't help with locating the fish, though.
 
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I'd suggest you read up as I found the hi-fin shark can 'tolerate' water temps as low as 40 deg F. I doubt your pond would stay warmer than that in Canada, unless you plan on heating it.

Sorry can't help with locating the fish, though.
I have done a bit of homework, and, as you say, that was about the minimum temperature that was suggested was safe for these fish. My pond is heated in the winter, and I have a large aquarium inside for any of the fish that require a "winter home" :)
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I saw these here in Missouri last summer at our only fish store in our area. I bought all my fish at this store. The person on duty told me they can handle anything a koi could. I paid 30 usd for one that was roughly 6 inches. Such a cool looking fish. I added it to my 3000 gallons pond around july 0f 2020. He did great until winter hit. He is gone now, and I never even found his body. The last time I saw him was just before my water dropped under 50 degrees Fahrenheit in October. We did have an extreme winter for our area, so I assume the cold killed him.
 

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I saw these here in Missouri last summer at our only fish store in our area. I bought all my fish at this store. The person on duty told me they can handle anything a koi could. I paid 30 usd for one that was roughly 6 inches. Such a cool looking fish. I added it to my 3000 gallons pond around july 0f 2020. He did great until winter hit. He is gone now, and I never even found his body. The last time I saw him was just before my water dropped under 50 degrees Fahrenheit in October. We did have an extreme winter for our area, so I assume the cold killed him.

I see them sold quite abit as pond fish, but they can’t withstand even normal winter temps at most northern zones, obviously can’t withstand what koi can. Fish store employees can be notoriously ignorant of the needs of the aquatic life they sell.
 
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These are the same people that tell people you can keep koi in an aquarium!

Ugh ugh ugh. We may all have or own ideas about pond building, but one thing I think we ALL agree on - fish sellers who sell fish without giving proper information about their habitat needs are the WORST. I've stood in big box pet stores and waited for a manager to come and remove koi from the aquariums on more than one occasion. When I show them pictures of my koi many of them are shocked - they just stock what they're sent by the buyers and have no idea that these fish are unsuited for tank life... at least for the average in-home aquarium keeper.
 
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This same store told me I could have 20 koiin my pond....and at that time it was only about 1500 gallons. WAY too small for koi at all. I've since done my homework, and increased the pond to over 3000 gallons, but I still have too many fish.
 
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I am new to the forum. Looks like there is a ton of great information on here.
I live in Southern Ontario (Canada) and I have been trying to locate somewhere where I can purchase a Chinese High Fin Banded Shark for my pond. It's about 1500 gallons and I think the High Fin would make a great addition but I can't seem to locate one. There are a number of sites online where they can be purchased but all of the ones I've found thus far are in the US and don't ship to Canada.
If anyone here can provide any idea of where I might be able to get one in Ontario, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks.

I have kept High Fin Banded Sharks (Myxocyprinus asiaticus) in my ponds for over 10 years. I live in Durham Region, Ontario. They live in my outdoor ponds year round. I have recently closed our pond and water garden business where we bred koi and pond fish commercially and ran a full service pond and water garden retail centre. I am semi retired now. I have started a consulting business and have a list of folks looking for HFBS. Let me know if you are still looking!!
 
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I have kept High Fin Banded Sharks (Myxocyprinus asiaticus) in my ponds for over 10 years. I live in Durham Region, Ontario. They live in my outdoor ponds year round. I have recently closed our pond and water garden business where we bred koi and pond fish commercially and ran a full service pond and water garden retail centre. I am semi retired now. I have started a consulting business and have a list of folks looking for HFBS. Let me know if you are still looking!!


I won't question your ability to keep these fish at temps below what most references claim they can survive, but what about size? How big are your ponds that you keep these fish in?
 

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@KCKWG Agree with Lisa, great that you can keep them at temps below what they supposedly can survive. Little more info on how you do this. Don’t take it personally, but I don’t trust someone’s advice especially on what fish can survive in certain setups that has something to gain that goes against my experiences.

My experience with the high fin banded sharks is that don’t make it over the winter in cold climates, and I am in a much warmer climate than you. On the other side I don’t know if many buyers realize what they look like when they mature and how big they get ( approaching 4’)they go from the cool banded look to a fish that looks like it fell out of an ugly tree and broke every branch on the way down. Personally, I like oddball fish, which is why I tried them in my pond, years back.
 
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@KCKWG Agree with Lisa, great that you can keep them at temps below what they supposedly can survive. Little more info on how you do this. Don’t take it personally, but I don’t trust someone’s advice especially on what fish can survive in certain setups that has something to gain that goes against my experiences.

My experience with the high fin banded sharks is that don’t make it over the winter in cold climates, and I am in a much warmer climate than you. On the other side I don’t know if many buyers realize what they look like when they mature and how big they get ( approaching 4’)they go from the cool banded look to a fish that looks like it fell out of an ugly tree and broke every branch on the way down. Personally, I like oddball fish, which is why I tried them in my pond, years back.

I don't stand to gain much, I broker deals of rare pond fish, and basically form buying groups to get large enough quantities to get the best deals for everyone in the group! I have been in the aquarium commercial and retail trade since my teens. Mainly working with pond species. I have trialed many fish species over the years and had great successes and abysmal failures. The HFBS are one of the biggest successes for sure. My observations have been that they do not grow as fast as they have the potential to. My one HFBS is 10 years old, 14" long and still retains its juvenile pattern.

I assure you, I can provide a large number of references regarding my ethical and responsible practices and relations with my past clients and retail customers. BUT I commend your skepticism and caution as your fish will definitely be well cared for and benefit because of it!!

I am first and foremost a devoted hobbyist, love sharing and exchanging experiences and knowledge! I came across this post in my recent internet search for a new source for HFBS. My previous supplier closed their business. Just wanted to share my HFBS keeping history! No charge!!! LOL
 
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I won't question your ability to keep these fish at temps below what most references claim they can survive, but what about size? How big are your ponds that you keep these fish in?
I have kept them in systems as small as 2000 gallons with a 4' depth. My current HFBS is in an 18,000 gallon pond that we built last year. It has an area of 15'x15' at a depth of 6'. Total pond dimensions are approximately 20' x 40'. We were basically just able to get the liner in in time to winter my gang as we moved last fall. For wintering I just use an aerator, 2 diffusers placed at the 3' depth, one in each end of the pond. The pond supports numerous koi, ranging from 6" to 3 large ladies at 38", 2 sturgeon, 6 channel cats, wakin and watonai, shubunkins, yellow perch, pumpkinseed, a common carp, the HFBS and a brown bullhead. We do "Wet Pet Rescue" so take in a crazy variety of aquatic animals, some we rehome others like the big carp will stay with us. I have sold many HFBS when we ran our retail business and many of my past customers keep in touch and have had their HFBS for many years as well.
 

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@KCKWG " a fish that looks like it fell out of an ugly tree and broke every branch on the way down."

I just had to respond to this quote, @Jhn as I'm still laughing! Going to have to remember this one!

No furtherences re HFBS! I found the usual comments re 'black/dark' fish in the pond to be true when I bought my karasu; once in, you can never find them again. That said, I knew this but I was working with the theory that this purchase was for my underwater viewing, which shows up the black goldfish just fine. And all that said, the karasu didn't make it!
 

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I just had to respond to this quote, @Jhn as I'm still laughing! Going to have to remember this one!

No furtherences re HFBS! I found the usual comments re 'black/dark' fish in the pond to be true when I bought my karasu; once in, you can never find them again. That said, I knew this but I was working with the theory that this purchase was for my underwater viewing, which shows up the black goldfish just fine. And all that said, the karasu didn't make it!
Aim to please lol, I am too use to your acronyms, for a little bit I am thinking what is HFBS short for in a pond like, hard f***ing bottom nah thats not right…not thinking of the fish being discussed.

Actually since I enlarged the pond was thinking of putting a sterlet (think dwarf sturgeon) in the pond, but those things are impossible to find in the U.S. probably for the best, as I should just stick with my menagerie Of terrapins and fish as it is.
 
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Aim to please lol, I am too use to your acronyms, for a little bit I am thinking what is HFBS short for in a pond like, hard f***ing bottom nah thats not right…not thinking of the fish being discussed.

Actually since I enlarged the pond was thinking of putting a sterlet (think dwarf sturgeon) in the pond, but those things are impossible to find in the U.S. probably for the best, as I should just stick with my menagerie Of terrapins and fish as it is.
I read a bit re sturgeon and though super interesting, seems they're harder to 'feed' in that the other fish compete pretty hard for all the food and the sturgeon will only get what falls to the bottom, and that's if it can get to it before the koi and goldfish! BUT! If you DO get one, don't forget the before pics (in case you never can find it again!!).
 
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Aim to please lol, I am too use to your acronyms, for a little bit I am thinking what is HFBS short for in a pond like, hard f***ing bottom nah thats not right…not thinking of the fish being discussed.

Actually since I enlarged the pond was thinking of putting a sterlet (think dwarf sturgeon) in the pond, but those things are impossible to find in the U.S. probably for the best, as I should just stick with my menagerie Of terrapins and fish as it is.

I have a Sterlet, got my from a friend in Florida!!
 
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I have kept High Fin Banded Sharks (Myxocyprinus asiaticus) in my ponds for over 10 years. I live in Durham Region, Ontario. They live in my outdoor ponds year round. I have recently closed our pond and water garden business where we bred koi and pond fish commercially and ran a full service pond and water garden retail centre. I am semi retired now. I have started a consulting business and have a list of folks looking for HFBS. Let me know if you are still looking!!
Hello,
I just read your post on High Fin Banded Sharks.
I would be extremely interested in discussing the possibility of putting them in my pond. I live in Stayner Ontario

Cheers
Brian
 

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