Overwintering 125 gal. 18 " Deep in zone 5b


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Any plastic that i would look at using would be reinforced with a girid within the plastic holds up to rains sun and ice all the while being reasonable
 
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Were the breathers discontinued because they were faulty on anyway?
Where can I find this argo plastic? I googled it but no luck.
Not sure why they were discontinued but don't think there was an issue. We have a lot of people who use them with no problems. I have them for both my ponds.
 

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Just get a trough heater off Amazon. That oughta do the trick. I use one in my 140 gallon above ground pond.
 

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I have 2 of those I used to use in my ponds. They work great- especially at raising the electric bill! 1500w is overkill unless you are in an area with extreme cold. There are a lot of other pond deicers with lower wattage.
 
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I used this pond heater in a plastic pond for 5 years and it worked great. Price is much higher now but well worth it if you can find one. It is a little late to be looking for this stuff but you might try one of the auction sites.
 
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I used a similar heater in my 700 gal pond last year, but it's the floating type. I'm sure it's overkill for my situation, but I didn't run it continuously; only in extremely cold conditions when the waterfall looked like it might be in danger of freezing up. I live in Massachusetts and we probably had only a handful of really cold stretches last year.
 
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I used this pond heater in a plastic pond for 5 years and it worked great. Price is much higher now but well worth it if you can find one. It is a little late to be looking for this stuff but you might try one of the auction sites.

I used this pond heater in a plastic pond for 5 years and it worked great. Price is much higher now but well worth it if you can find one. It is a little late to be looking for this stuff but you might try one of the auction sites.
When should I start stalking up on winterizing supplies usually? Is there a time of year they go on sale?
 
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I used a similar heater in my 700 gal pond last year, but it's the floating type. I'm sure it's overkill for my situation, but I didn't run it continuously; only in extremely cold conditions when the waterfall looked like it might be in danger of freezing up. I live in Massachusetts and we probably had only a handful of really cold stretches last year.
I found several stalk heaters. My concern is no shroud to protect the fish. Farm innovators makes a submersible deicer with grid shroud to protect the fish but my shubies are only 4-5" and it looks as though they could swim to the element or possibly get stuck.
 
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When should I start stalking up on winterizing supplies usually? Is there a time of year they go on sale?
Best to get equipment for the fall/winter early in the summer. Look for sales on winter equipment in the spring.
I found this on Amazon. I know it's an aquarium heater but it has a controller that has a thermostatic control that you can set as low as the 30 Fahrenheit. There are a few comments in the reviews about using it in ponds. Comes with a shroud.
Finnex Digital Heater Controller with Deluxe Titanium Tube https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0036UTSM...abc_H6C678YQHZB8RQ4ZWH0B?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Absolutely no. It made for indoor use only. I just read the manufacturer's product description and it does say outdoor use but personally, I wouldn't do it. I doubt the controller is completely waterproof and could present a real safety hazard. It is not designed to continuously run (which it will do so outdoors even at the lowest setting) and the heating element is not 'caged' and could easily melt through your plastic pond. Yes, you could make a protective shield to prevent this but it still does not resolve the first two issues which are major 'show stoppers' in my opinion. You are best to purchase a heater or breather specifically made for plastic garden ponds.
 
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In your first picture I see a wooden structure which looks like a deck. I would attach 2x4's fanning out sitting on end (not flat), to that deck. Extend them out with the other end pitched down to the ground.
This will give you a strong frame to support either plain plastic or maybe bubble wrap or pool solar cover material.

A pond deicer should help, especially with the plastic cover. They have a built in thermostat. You can get a 300 watt unit that floats.

One thing that wasn't mentioned... your pond needs an opening in the ice for gas exchange. You don't want your fish under the ice without that for too long. It can become toxic for them.
 
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You are best to purchase a heater or breather specifically made for plastic garden ponds.
I can't find a breather anywhere. Been searching the internet for days. Everything is out of stalk. I think pond breathers are becoming a non-option for people.
 
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My pond is about 16’x6.5’ but only 18” at shallowest and 24” at deepest spot. I’m in zone 5b and I’ve always brought my goldfish fish in for winter but this year I’m going to try leaving them out I’ve bought this thermo-pond 3.0 from K&H pet products on Amazon. Since I haven’t tried it yet I can’t say how well it will work but it’s an option. I don’t know if my pond freezes right to the bottom or not but I had 3 goldfish that got missed last year when I was bringing the rest in and they didn’t survive the winter. I really hoping it was just the lack of an open spot for gas exchange.
 
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I've built a greenhouse around mine with pvc and greenhouse plastic. I have two deicers one rated for my pond size and one rated for a much higher wattage. I also bought straw bales to surround the pond as a wind break. Fingers crossed.
 
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I've built a greenhouse around mine with pvc and greenhouse plastic. I have two deicers one rated for my pond size and one rated for a much higher wattage. I also bought straw bales to surround the pond as a wind break. Fingers crossed.
Keep us posted!
 
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Another tip would be to get a couple bales of straw and pull the bales appart and shake them around the pond
 
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I am getting really nervous about leaving my shubies in my shallow pond. My gut says it's going to be a bad winter. I have two 20 gallon tubs now that are meant as hospital tanks and 4 cycled double sponge filters with media. I am considering puting the fish in their hospital tanks in the guest bath tub for the winter.

Do you think this is a better idea then trying to overwinter them in my 18" pond?

How would I warm them slowly enough? The pond temp is it 51.7 today?

With cycled filter available would that be an instant cycle or would that take a few days?

How bad would it stress my shubies to be separated for the winter?

I need hard core honest advice about this. Last time I tried to keep a fish indoors (a beta in college) I killed it within a month. I know a lot more now but the smaller tanks make me nervous about big shifts in the water.
 
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Do you have large temperature shifts inside your home? If not, the water will be fine.

Since you have cycled.filters, there is no reason the tanks would go through a cycle. That's already done.

I don't see a problem with bringing them inside. It would be nice if you could put them all in something larger, even a water trough.

Tractor Supply sells many different sizes. I've used the 100 and 150 gallon ones for years. If you have room, one of those would be ideal in my opinion. One of those would probably fit in your bathtub.
 

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