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Do you have/buy Bitcoin? For what reason?...investment? To use on sites that use it? As an alternative currency if the dollar fails? For fun? I just bought some last week...put in a few hundred dollars that I can afford to lose. If it continues going up, I'll take out my original investment, then it will be free money from there if it continues to go up, or no loss if it goes down or crashes.
 

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Me too! But many think this is still "the ground floor", so I figured I would throw a few bucks at it.
 
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Me too! But many think this is still "the ground floor", so I figured I would throw a few bucks at it.
Nah, I think a major inflation has already happened. As it is I just don't see where the extra value is coming from. There are lots of other "bitcoin" type currencies that work basically the same way and yet they just don't seem to be catching on or increasing in value. Which kind of makes you wonder if the only reason bitcoins are valued at the price they are is because of an artificial value based solely on popularity. An easy bubble to burst it would seem.
But hey! who knows? It will be interesting to see. I should probably join you, throw a few hundred dollars that way and make it even more interesting. o_O
 

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Thought this might help those who are not familiar with Bitcoin understand it a bit better.....

Bitcoin Simplified...

A currency is a medium of exchange that has an accepted value by those using it, and throughout history currencies have taken on many forms. Perhaps the one we are most familiar with is our country’s official currency. In the US, it is the Dollar; in the UK, the Pound; in Japan, the Yen, and so on. We exchange our country’s currency for goods and services. However, there have always existed unofficial currencies or mediums of exchange. We have all heard stories of days gone by when someone would pay the doctor with a chicken or some eggs, or even today when you might chop a cord of wood for a neighbor in exchange for piano lessons for your child. We call that bartering, and bartering is an unofficial currency because the items or services are a medium of exchange that in themselves have value.

There was a time when the major official world currencies were backed by gold. You could take your form of currency (a paper note) and exchange it for gold, something of real value in the world. Those days are long gone. Now, all the major world currencies are known as fiat currencies. A fiat currency is a medium of exchange not backed by a physical commodity or something of real value, but accepted as a medium of exchange that has value. This is exactly what Bitcoin is.

What stymies most people is that Bitcoin is not something you can’t see or hold in your hand like paper money or a basket of eggs, so they may be unsure about it, think it cannot be of value, is a scam or evil enterprise. Others think it is the future of currency. Bitcoin is a digital cryptocurrency. But, what is a cryptocurrency?

Digital is the language of computers. When we use a computer, we see words and images on our monitor and hear sounds on our speakers, but a computer doesn’t. A computer “sees” and “hears” everything as a digit, a number, specifically a string of 0’s and 1’s. It stores everything as digits and the world wide web transmits these digits to other computers who “translate” them as words, images and sounds on other monitors and speakers.

Cryptography is the art and science of uniquely scrambling or encrypting information to keep it secret so only the originator and intended recipient know the true meaning of the information being sent.

So, a cryptocurrency is an encoded string of digits used as a medium of exchange that has an accepted value and is transmitted by a computer from one person to another. Bitcoin, whether it be one Bitcoin, many Bitcoins, or a fraction of a Bitcoin, every time it is bought, sold or exchanged creates one of these uniquely encoded digital strings, commonly called a digital signature. This digital signature is transmitted from originator to recipient where it is uniquely re-encoded. This re-encoded digital signature is now “owned” by the recipient.

So, what gives Bitcoin its value? Here are some factors:

-Like a precious metal, there is a limited supply of Bitcoin and the more in demand it is, the more it’s value increases. That’s called supply and demand.

-More entities are accepting Bitcoin in exchange for goods and services.

-It is extremely secure, much safer than a bank account, check, credit card, pocket book or wallet.

-You can instantly send it around the world without the need for a third party, i.e. bank.

-It is much easier to store and readily available from your “digital wallet”.

-It is innovative and lends itself to the digital world. If you are a betting person, you would bet this is how we will handle “money” in the future.

No doubt, there are many people who will be very slow to embrace Bitcoin, or any cryptocurrency. Like most innovations, most people are slow to accept. However, if you agree that the digital world is here to stay, then you must believe that cryptocurrency is the logical next step in currency. There was a time people did not trust and would not use banks, credit cards, PayPal, etc. Now, they are common-place; so too will be cryptocurrency as the future unfolds.

Like any currency, Bitcoin, or any cryptocurrency, is subject to increases and decreases in value. Will Bitcoin be the cryptocurrency of choice 10 years from now? Who knows. The only thing for certain is that cryptocurrency is here to stay, and Bitcoin is king for the foreseeable future. Could it collapse and be completely devalued? Yup, just like the Dollar, the Pound and the Yen. It’ your call.
 
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Who owns bitcoin? Is it regulated by any government? Is it backed by anything or is it like a Ponzi? Who decides what price it goes for and is there a commission to buy and sell?
 

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Bitcoin is owned by anyone who wants to buy it, trade for it, or charge in Bitcoin for goods and services. No, it is not regulated by the government, and that actually is a good thing. It is backed by people who invest in it, and it's value grows as more invest in it, more use it and more companies accept it as payment. Thousands of companies, some house hold names, accept it, and that number is growing. It is not a Ponzi scheme. There is no commission to buy/sell if you have your own Bitcoin wallet and act independently. if you use an online "broker" there is a minimal fee to buy or cash out, but not to accept or spend it.

Here are a couple of videos that explain it.


 
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What about differences in currency value? Is it possible to buy it in Canadian and sell it in American and avoid the high loss associated with the Canadian dollar?
 
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Do you have/buy Bitcoin? For what reason?...investment? To use on sites that use it? As an alternative currency if the dollar fails? For fun? I just bought some last week...put in a few hundred dollars that I can afford to lose. If it continues going up, I'll take out my original investment, then it will be free money from there if it continues to go up, or no loss if it goes down or crashes.
So I see bitcoin has been in the news a lot lately, how you doing with your investment, did you get your original money out as you planned?
 
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I don't, but have two friends who are really into it. One has become crypto-wealthy almost overnight. He had spent one paycheck a year for the last 5 years and now have a few hundred. The other was an early miner before it became popular and was more for math geeks. He had well over a thousand but a few years back his wife made him cash it all in. Needless to say he would have been beyond rich. But of course hindsight is always 20/20.

What is more interesting is the technology which manages the Bitcoin and c-currencies, block chain. Some believe it may revolutionize how data is managed going forward. I actually have a pet project at work trying to adapt this into one of our systems. Just trying to learning more about this as of late. If anyone knows the security model around block chain systems, I'd love to pick your brain a bit. Feel free to PM me.
 

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I don't, but have two friends who are really into it. One has become crypto-wealthy almost overnight. He had spent one paycheck a year for the last 5 years and now have a few hundred. The other was an early miner before it became popular and was more for math geeks. He had well over a thousand but a few years back his wife made him cash it all in. Needless to say he would have been beyond rich. But of course hindsight is always 20/20.

What is more interesting is the technology which manages the Bitcoin and c-currencies, block chain. Some believe it may revolutionize how data is managed going forward. I actually have a pet project at work trying to adapt this into one of our systems. Just trying to learning more about this as of late. If anyone knows the security model around block chain systems, I'd love to pick your brain a bit. Feel free to PM me.

I was reading an article the other day where this guy was saying forget about investing in cryptocurrencies, invest in block chain technology because it will be the future of data. I wish I knew more about it.
 

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So I see bitcoin has been in the news a lot lately, how you doing with your investment, did you get your original money out as you planned?

Still letting the original portion ride with the interest. Big drop for Bitcoin this past week...over $5000 down, but still up by $6000 for the month. It's been a wild month. My original investment of $685 is at $1445 right now, was up to $2000+ earlier in the week.
 

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