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I'll give the answer a little latter see if any of the goldfishers care to take a guess
 
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Yes i did, the gin rin goshiki was the smallest at 9 inches but it cost more than the other 2 combined. It has potential show quality.

Cometkeith- that was an excellent post thank you.
Thanks Rich. I actually know more about goldfish, but I have been learning about Koi for the last year so I appreciate the compliment. I think Kodama is an excellent place to buy Koi from. I'm glad they were up and running right away after the Hurricane hit Hawaii. I have actually bid on a few of their fish in the past and thank God I got outbid! The gin rin is really pretty. I like metallic scale fish a lot too. Good luck with all your new fish!
 
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and who would venture to guess how much this guy is going for at at 27" and three years old

Humm 7k?
I love edumakation. That's how we all leerned. So...that's not really a fair question. Did it win any medals or any of it's parents or grandparents win medals? That could increase the price by a lot. I'm guessing probably there are some medals in the family. The coloration on it's head is really good and very unusual so i can see a collector paying a lot if they really liked it. The fin coloration is perfectly symetrical and it has a very nice shape. At this age it has the potential to be a giant and over 30". I think I saw a fish like this at the local pet shop for a couple hundred bucks but think that might have been a little low.....
so my guess is $15,000-$20,000?
.... I have to add that I know nothing about the prices of this size and quality fish. Usually when I see prices in the thousands I run the other way!
 
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@CometKeith how did you manage learning how to identify Koi fish. I have my first Koi fish this year, and for the life of me I can't figure out what they are. I wish I asked at the time I got them, as now I'm curious. Any tips appreciated as the internet is not helping.
 

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Nice looking fish. I don’t buy koi because of show potential, I buy ones that catch my interest. Used to pay attention to all the different types of koi, many years ago at my old house where herons couldn’t get at them easily.

However, I pretty much stopped buying koi, as I have grown tired of feeding the heron population the past 9 years. Although, I did buy a cool orange and white one with reticulated scales this past spring, but of course it was heron lunch while I was on vacation back in June. Reminding me why I stopped buying koi and just let the established koi in the pond be.
 
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for the gold fish lovers a little edumakation
View attachment 115282when It looks like someone used a magic marker on the fish and the color changes are crisp and sharp like this guy the price skyrockets this guy at 10 inches sold for a deal at 160 bucks if he was 18 to 20 inches he would probably fetch $2500
and who would venture to guess how much this guy is going for at at 27" and three years old
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Ok no one else wanted to take a guess you were very close. they are asking 25,000 k for that second fish see now in my book the first fish I way more spectacular the second looks messy to me
 
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@CometKeith how did you manage learning how to identify Koi fish. I have my first Koi fish this year, and for the life of me I can't figure out what they are. I wish I asked at the time I got them, as now I'm curious. Any tips appreciated as the internet is not helping.
Hi Tara. Really I learned mostly through the internet. There are a lot of pond clubs that have very good information on their web sites, also I watched a bunch of You Tubes about Koi breeding and Koi buying in Japan, and I looked at 1000's and 1000s of pictures on the internet to get a feel for the value of fish I might want to buy and read the web pages of the sellers to learn more about their fish. I recently bought two small Koi for $100 ea but I feel they have great potential. So I guess I'm very cheap and was looking at opportunities to save money and still get some nice Koi! So from this group I bought (B). It was only 5" when I bought him and he has already grown about an inch or so in the last month. It's a Sanke and I expect the dark spots to darken over time to be a nice black color. The other Koi I got is very similar with a slightly different design but the same basic colors.
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Ok no one else wanted to take a guess you were very close. they are asking 25,000 k for that second fish see now in my book the first fish I way more spectacular the second looks messy to me
Actually I'm not surprised. The head of the fish has ideal coloration, but a very unusual design which would make it extremely collectable. You could see it still has a lot of potential to improve over time. Some of the black is just starting to come into it's own and will develop over time. Maybe overall it doesn't have a perfect pattern but because of it's uniqueness I understand why someone paid so much for it. This was actually a pretty good test because it doesn't fit the typical profile of an expensive Koi. If this was maybe 18-20 inches it would could been worth at least 12-15K so I'm not shocked at that price for this size fish.
 
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@CometKeith how did you manage learning how to identify Koi fish. I have my first Koi fish this year, and for the life of me I can't figure out what they are. I wish I asked at the time I got them, as now I'm curious. Any tips appreciated as the internet is not helping.
I will tell you how i learned. I looked on ebay and searched live koi. They have dozens of auctions every day. When you look at it every day for months you start to learn the names of the different type of koi.. They mostly just have the popular ones though. You might have to supplement some others through YouTube. Search the internet for "koi glossary". That is a great way to start. It will tell you all the names of each koi and what there colors are. If you find a good one it will also have pictures.
It took me a year or 2 but i can usually identify most koi.
 
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Yes they have nice fish there. I also picked up a ki utsuri and a gin rin goshiki. Pics below View attachment 115272 View attachment 115274
Beautiful fish!
I am looking around for a nice (under my standards) Hi or a ki Utsuri!
I heard in a video that young Utsuri sometime lose their black, but does it come back in the same original pattern, or can the fish look totally different?
 
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Beautiful fish!
I am looking around for a nice (under my standards) Hi or a ki Utsuri!
I heard in a video that young Utsuri sometime lose their black, but does it come back in the same original pattern, or can the fish look totally different?
I believe total different it's amazing how much koi can change in a short period of time
 
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Rich8888ri ? I HATE YOU after completing the water change and feeling good about the tank you gave me the kodama bug and away I went 700 bucks latter I have three new fish. I am upgrading the collection already as most of the original fish got were low ball they were there mainly for cycling the pond. I have found some amazing fish lately. real glad I made the quarantine tank now as I catch a fish here and there I don't have to run to the koi shop to drop them off . they can hang in the quarantine tank for a while. Bad pictures but it gives an idea.
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I should label them as I have the receipt , small one is Ginrin showa the mostly orange is Doitsu Showwa , and the top one or one on the left that is very sharp lines and pattern is Doitsu Sank
 
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Beautiful fish!
I am looking around for a nice (under my standards) Hi or a ki Utsuri!
I heard in a video that young Utsuri sometime lose their black, but does it come back in the same original pattern, or can the fish look totally different?
The hi utsuri by far is the more stable koi of those 2 if buying them young. Meaning the sumi (black) will remain the same and even get darker. The ki utsuri was deemed the least desirable of the 3 utsuri ( shiro being the most desirable) so the breeders spent most of the time perfecting the shiro and hi utsuri. The results the ki genetics don't have the strong sumi that the others do. Often you will see ki utsuri with grey sumi that looks muddy.. If you find one with strong black it usually expensive. Regarding hi utsuri there are orange and red. The red is the more desirable and much more expensive of the 2.
 
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Rich8888ri ? I HATE YOU after completing the water change and feeling good about the tank you gave me the kodama bug and away I went 700 bucks latter I have three new fish. I am upgrading the collection already as most of the original fish got were low ball they were there mainly for cycling the pond. I have found some amazing fish lately. real glad I made the quarantine tank now as I catch a fish here and there I don't have to run to the koi shop to drop them off . they can hang in the quarantine tank for a while. Bad pictures but it gives an idea. View attachment 115380 I should label them as I have the receipt , small one is Ginrin showa the mostly orange is Doitsu Showwa , and the top one or one on the left that is very sharp lines and pattern is Doitsu Sank
Lol im so sorry but on the positive side you got 3 beautiful fish. The dotsoi are really nice and im a sucker for gin rin showa (see my aviator for my favorite koi in my pond). Congratulations and best of luck with them! You did well.
 
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The hi utsuri by far is the more stable koi of those 2 if buying them young. Meaning the sumi (black) will remain the same and even get darker. The ki utsuri was deemed the least desirable of the 3 utsuri ( shiro being the most desirable) so the breeders spent most of the time perfecting the shiro and hi utsuri. The results the ki genetics don't have the strong sumi that the others do. Often you will see ki utsuri with grey sumi that looks muddy.. If you find one with strong black it usually expensive. Regarding hi utsuri there are orange and red. The red is the more desirable and much more expensive of the 2.
I'm not really attracted by the shiro so I'm pretty sure that one is out!
If the sumi in the hi utsuri changes patterns as the fish grows I guess it's pointless for me to pay too much attention to it, in selecting a fish...again I'm not looking for show quality, just a well balanced sumi
 
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The hi utsuri by far is the more stable koi of those 2 if buying them young. Meaning the sumi (black) will remain the same and even get darker. The ki utsuri was deemed the least desirable of the 3 utsuri ( shiro being the most desirable) so the breeders spent most of the time perfecting the shiro and hi utsuri. The results the ki genetics don't have the strong sumi that the others do. Often you will see ki utsuri with grey sumi that looks muddy.. If you find one with strong black it usually expensive. Regarding hi utsuri there are orange and red. The red is the more desirable and much more expensive of the 2.
Your new fish are really nice. Is the doitsu a Sanke?
 
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