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I have a shubunkin which doesn't seem to be able to hover after coming out of winter. This was one of two fish that were lying on their sides earlier in the spring. One of those fish died, this one survived. I thought this one did too because I hadn't seen it for a while. But its always on the bottom of the pond, upright, but not really moving. Yesterday it did push itself up to the surface to grab a pellet or two of food, but then went back to the bottom.

I suppose something is wrong with its swim bladder. Anything I can do about it? Any chance it will just recover?

I've had this fish about for about 2 years, but this was its first winter outside since previously I had a container pond I brought inside for the winter.
 
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I hope your fish makes it. We have a shubunkin who does this every spring. Everyone else is swimming around and this guy is basically laying on a shelf. It CAN swim - it just doesn't. I've been sure it was going to die more than once. And then one day - BOOM - swimming just like normal and it's fine again until the next spring. Just lazy maybe? Slower to come out of the cold season? No clue.
 

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Take it out and set up another place for it with an airstone in the tank
 
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He seems much better. He may be a bit more unsure on his fins than the other fish, but I doubt I'd notice had he not been acting so strangely before. And I think it's a "he" because I've seen him chasing other fish in the pond as they all seem to be doing this week.
 
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Some fish don't do well in cold water. This may vary season to season. I doubt there is much to do about it.
 

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He seems much better. He may be a bit more unsure on his fins than the other fish, but I doubt I'd notice had he not been acting so strangely before. And I think it's a "he" because I've seen him chasing other fish in the pond as they all seem to be doing this week.
Did you acquire this fish independent of the others? From a different source?
 
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Did you acquire this fish independent of the others? From a different source?
Yeah, this is one of my three original fish which came from a Petsmart. He's pretty, what Blackwater creek would call a sky blue shubunkin. I'll see if I can find a photo.

All the rest came from various pond or pet stores and were sold as pond fish. I had one casualty during quarantine from that batch and five fish with anchor worms from the retail store of a well known pond equipment manufacturer.
 
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Photos? I'm considering buying a 7 pack of their "special" fish this year. I want to add a few more and the options are to be very choosy about what I buy locally or have them shipped.
 
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No. Or no idea who the supplier is. I did ask a few of the local pond places who thier suppliers are. None were BWC.
 
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Pretty fish, glad it's doing better :) BTW, how do you put your name on your pictures?
 
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BTW, how do you put your name on your pictures?
I use Lightroom to "export" the photos I post and you can create a watermark in Lightroom. It can be text and or image and I digitized a copy of my signature to get the one you see.
 
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I use Lightroom to "export" the photos I post and you can create a watermark in Lightroom. It can be text and or image and I digitized a copy of my signature to get the one you see.
Thank you !!
 
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No. Or no idea who the supplier is. I did ask a few of the local pond places who thier suppliers are. None were BWC.
The reason behind my questions is fish over generations become adapted to the general climate of an area. Fish bred and raised at a Northern hatchery will be adapted to Northern winters whereas those fish bred and raised in Southern hatcheries such as Blackwater Creek are adapted to warmer waters and mild winters. In fish sciences this is called a "preferendum" and any large variance from it may cause chronic stress and immunological issues in the subject fish.
When buying fish for a pond, it is always better to purchase fish that are bred and raised in the same or similar climate as the target pond.
 
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Thanks. I was wondering where you were going with this. So this fish was bought from a pet store tank, presumably he was meant to live out his life inside. Aquascape, which is where some of my fish come from, uses Koubec Koi from Iowa, which is certainly similar. Others I forget.
 

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So this fish was bought from a pet store tank, presumably he was meant to live out his life inside
Not necessarily. It depends on the prevailing climate of the hatchery they came from. But, if they came from a Northern hatchery and are kept in a tank where the water temperature is warmer than what they are adapted to, they will be weakened fish.
 
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For fish from black water creek... make sure you add them in early summer not spring as the temperature in Florida is high and the fish is not used to the cold.
 

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