Going for it! phase one 12,000 gallon pond.


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I'M learning what ever works I will try as you can see there's a few too many in the pond but we are getting there. I'm hoping I may be able to just scoop them out in the winter months I made a quarantine tank. I just don't know time will tell.
 
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Pond looks so pretty and clear @GBBUDD and I don't know how the heck you will catch all those fish! What about 3 people and a seine net? That's how my friend and I got her koi out but there was only two of us. Her pond is 8ft deep and is very large.
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Pond looks so pretty and clear @GBBUDD and I don't know how the heck you will catch all those fish! What about 3 people and a seine net? That's how my friend and I got her koi out but there was only two of us. Her pond is 8ft deep and is very large.
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Fortunately I am not planning on catching them all. But I swear they know which ones I want to catch and which ones are safe. Of course the biggest and slowest are all staying it's the babies and a couple of the originals it comes to about a little less then half.
I'm thinking of not running the bogs and water falls this winter. I'f I am traveling I don't want to risk it but the main bog i'm thinking of running a submersible and have it just recirculating the water in the snorkel keeping the bog alive and not loose the bio load that has developed this year.
 
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I'm thinking of not running the bogs and water falls this winter. I'f I am traveling I don't want to risk it but the main bog i'm thinking of running a submersible and have it just recirculating the water in the snorkel keeping the bog alive and not loose the bio load that has developed this year.
I turn my bog and pond off every winter, it sits flow less for 4-5 months, usually nov-march. Once I turn back on the water flow, the pond water clears usually within two days, the plants are already growing before turn on. I have never had a stinky smelly mess when I do turn it on. It does not seem to bother the bio load at all.
 
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I turn my bog and pond off every winter, it sits flow less for 4-5 months, usually nov-march. Once I turn back on the water flow, the pond water clears usually within two days, the plants are already growing before turn on. I have never had a stinky smelly mess when I do turn it on. It does not seem to bother the bio load at all.
Your advantage is your bog is part of your pond. The water is on both sides of the dividing wall my bog is not. It's completely separate that and I have fish living in my bog of all things at least a dozen are in there as crazy as it seems.
 
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Been working on the main post for the netting of the pond . I have decided I'm going to use basically 3 sections 20' x 30' . This will leave the corners open for maintenance. a simple carabineer will hold the corner closed when not in use . This will enclose the sides but leaving the top open. I'm not sure yet if a few fishing lines strung across will be the top or if an other net on top will be the route to go. If you look close I smoked the water a bit moving the pole into place the rubber edge slipped and the water mudded up quick and within 2 hours there's a visible difference in the clarity.
 
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Your advantage is your bog is part of your pond. The water is on both sides of the dividing wall my bog is not. It's completely separate that and I have fish living in my bog of all things at least a dozen are in there as crazy as it seems.
It is and it isn't there is a wall separating the two, when I turn off the pond the bog drains back to the level of the pea gravel. The bog does keep water in it all winter and it does freeze. I rescue the tad poles that are swimming around ow they will die, the water level drops to low.

The bog is totally separate from the pond once the water flow is stopped.
 
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It is and it isn't there is a wall separating the two, when I turn off the pond the bog drains back to the level of the pea gravel. The bog does keep water in it all winter and it does freeze. I rescue the tad poles that are swimming around ow they will die, the water level drops to low.

The bog is totally separate from the pond once the water flow is stopped.
Oh I thought you had the wood beams between allowing for seepage between the two my bad. because off the fish in there oddly enough I feel bad for them so I will do what I can for them a little circulating pump is easy enough. But like your self I am leaning toward shutting down the main pump and the stream. I will be using the air pump but it's going to be in a closet sorta speak with led lights generating just a little bit of heat so as to not throw zero degrees at the fish. I guess I am being stubborn I spent a lot to get the bottom drain air bladder and 120 air pump and I know your warning but I'm thinking the other guy who left the air pump running pumped cold air and super chilled the water. that I we be avoiding. but on the same note leaving led lights on and a air pump will be more electricity then a air breather " heater"
 

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He had the air pump pulling outside air, had the pump under a cover out beside the pond. So yes pulling darn cold air.
Put a good thermometer on the bottom, watch the water temp as winter comes in. Mine stays right around 34f dead winter, in the 5 foot deep area. It is part of my davis weather station.
 
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I have noticed that one genre of koi seem to dine on the string algae more so then the others . The Ogons will come up when I feed the koi but almost immediately after eating pellets they dive right back and munch on the rocks and now that the temps have chilled "pun intended" the koi are getting the upper hand on the algae
 
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Netting and carbineers arrived Pulled up one side of the copper braided wire and slid the net up as a test . The results are I am very happy with the gauge of the netting and the sewn rope edging. but most of all you can hardly see it against the maple tree in the back ground or even looking at the bog and water fall in broad day light the test is better then I hoped for
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That looks terrific, so can you walk around the pond now with the net up.
 
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The plan now is to just wrap the pond with the nets and throw a few fishing lines over the top for the osprey.
the net does cut across the stream for now but now that I can see the net is hardly any distraction at all I will probably leave the stream and bogs out of the enclosure. the net is going to be in two pieces so when I am home I can pull the net back to the sides like a swag and curtains . i'm thinking it is going to look pretty cool .
 
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That looks terrific, so can you walk around the pond now with the net up.
the net will only go to the ground on two sides and when I am home at the pond that side at the patio will be pulled back to each side . like I said above just like a curtain with a swag. the net that's against the hedge will not reach the hedge it will be slightly higher then the hedges so the hedge will not destroy the net and so the net does not destroy the hedge.. I should add I used #21 braided sport netting 1 3/4" black square netting with carabineers and 3/8" solid strand braded copper wire.
 
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@GBBUDD so the Heron or other types of predator birds won't be able to just land on your property and walk right up to your pond anywhere right?
 
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@GBBUDD so the Heron or other types of predator birds won't be able to just land on your property and walk right up to your pond anywhere right?
correct. the net I was talking that would be short of getting to the ground would be at he hedges where I can't see a heron working his way through the hedge to get to the pond if they do a couple strands of 100 pound test run through the hedge will stop that easy enough. it is also going to act as my fence for the time being as well.
 
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