Going for it! phase one 12,000 gallon pond.


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first snow of the year along with icing has persuaded me to install the air bladders to the pond and the large bog. I used a single matala bladder in the big bog , and a double unit in the pond. Some of the experienced ponders have cautioned using air instead of a heating element. but the way I see it I am more concerned about the fishing using up available o2 over the 4 month hibernation. I also have the air pumps in a walkout enclosure . It's an unheated area but never gets as cold as it is outside. it worked last year so I added one to the bog to keep it from becoming stagnant.
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I'm interested in the placement in your bog. The water is right below the gravel in mine, so would have no water to aerate? I just turned off the pump and drained the lines, water dropped to just below the gravel....hoping everything makes it next Spring.
 

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I am hoping for no snow this year so everyone can have the stuff I don't want ;)it does look pretty with your pond ,all you need is Santa sitting near it and you would have a really nice Christmas Card
 
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I'm interested in the placement in your bog. The water is right below the gravel in mine, so would have no water to aerate? I just turned off the pump and drained the lines, water dropped to just below the gravel....hoping everything makes it next Spring.
My bog has a snorkel and aquablocks so i just drop the air bladder to about a foot and a half from the bottom so any solids that make there way to the bottom don't get stirred up and the water movement will keep the bog from going stagnant. Plus there are fish living down there not by my doing but as fry they got sucked into the filters , through the pump and blown to the bottom of the bog where there is a 24" round pipe that's runs the length of the bog. i have tried to catch them but no such luck. i think the pipe was 13 feet long with a second 24" pipe standing vertically and that's 7 feet tall.
 
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I am hoping for no snow this year so everyone can have the stuff I don't want ;)it does look pretty with your pond ,all you need is Santa sitting near it and you would have a really nice Christmas Card
hI was hoping for the 8 to 14" that the weather FOLKS originally called for with the cyclone bomb i had the falls running and that could have made some cool sculptures and with the pond lights it can be amazing
 
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I'm interested in the placement in your bog. The water is right below the gravel in mine, so would have no water to aerate? I just turned off the pump and drained the lines, water dropped to just below the gravel....hoping everything makes it next Spring.
Mine is always that way over winter, turned off, water drops to just below the gravel, evaporation factor and some drainage. In the early spring it grows back to the point I do a early purge of growing plants.
Yours will be fine. If the bog dries up totally that would kill the plants they would dry out.
Even with it being off for months the water never stinks i.e. stagnant when turned back on in the spring.
 
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Plus there are fish living down there
That's hilarious! I have always wondered if we could possibly have fry make it into our rain exchange - or eggs make it down there and then hatch. Haven't found one yet, but anything is possible!
 

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That's hilarious! I have always wondered if we could possibly have fry make it into our rain exchange - or eggs make it down there and then hatch. Haven't found one yet, but anything is possible!
I get fish in my fishless ponds all of the time, they go through the pump, down the garden hose feed, down a small water fall and turn the fishless pond into a pond with fish. I even get them up in my deck ponds, they go through a clear water pump, up 50ish feet of piping down a waterfall into the pond. They either travel as eggs or small fry, no clue really. My guess would be eggs but pure guess.

I have 6 fish in my lotus tub pond, they did the garden hose travel into the first pond then over a small water fall to end up in the lotus tub pond.

I just leave them be, they survive the heron, the winters , no water movement all winter and some good freezes.
 
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I get fish in my fishless ponds all of the time, they go through the pump, down the garden hose feed, down a small water fall and turn the fishless pond into a pond with fish. I even get them up in my deck ponds, they go through a clear water pump, up 50ish feet of piping down a waterfall into the pond. They either travel as eggs or small fry, no clue really. My guess would be eggs but pure guess.

I have 6 fish in my lotus tub pond, they did the garden hose travel into the first pond then over a small water fall to end up in the lotus tub pond.

I just leave them be, they survive the heron, the winters , no water movement all winter and some good freezes.
I have a new weapon against the over population of the pond from fry it's an all natural solution . A King Fisher has found my pond I don't believe they will go for a fish over 4" a koi that's 4" i could be wrong but that's ok even my babies from last year are now over 6" long I do have two babies from this years breeding that are pretty cool one is silver and black very uniformly marked but is a short fin . Another is a long fin and i mean real long as it's just a baby and it's tail is as long as the body if not more but he is a dark brown "time will tell if they can survive the Arial bombardment of the king fisher"
 

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I would let the heron help with population, but after it wiped out one entire pond of fish, the other one 3/4 of the fish I keep the net on.
The big pond the fish have more of a chance. The heron would probably take all the bright fish and leave the dark ones!
 
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@GBBUDD are you using 2 accounts, just wondering as noticed the difference.

Would be nice to not have to have a net but the critters around here would wipe all the fish out fast! They can also injure the bigger fish just stabbing at them even if they can't lift them out.
 

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Have used the heron around my pond for population control as well as the terrapins in my pond for the longest time. However, I drew the line when a hawk decided turtles were on its menu. So now I have a wide weave net stretched up high above the pond since this summer.

Will add some turtles back to the large pond this coming summer as the juvenile turtles will be 3 years old by then and fairly large.
 
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I got locked out of my account way back i was on differant pc's and i couldn't remember the password for the life of me and said the hell with it after an hour or so and just made gbbudd2 well i am on that pc now and now it remebers GBBUDD2 and i cant remember the password to gbbud2 now so life sucks and now im gbbudd and gbbudd just depends what pc i am on. definately not trying to pull a fast one considering i used 2 i thought fewer folks would ever even notice besides who else would ever want to be a gbbudd. i made this name over 20 years ago for an aquarium web site and now i just use it because some of the folks from back then have seen me here i thought i would be good to carry the name on even if no one even myself knows what a gbbudd is . I was new to computers then and i had little clue what a screen name really meant.


Have used the heron around my pond for population control as well as the terrapins in my pond for the longest time. However, I drew the line when a hawk decided turtles were on its menu. So now I have a wide weave net stretched up high above the pond since this summer.

Will add some turtles back to the large pond this coming summer as the juvenile turtles will be 3 years old by then and fairly large.
I have to closed in the top of the pond as yet so far so good i think the flight path is too tight for the heron and i have the net closing off the back yard if they were to try to walk in. even the ospree i have seen fly over head and hover only to fly away if they dove into the pond between the wire at 16 feet on two sides the house on another and the garage it leves little flight path horizontaaly for them to fly away.
 
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