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The green stuff = the good stuff lol

I see that this Tetra in pond skimmer is actually working pretty well. I have some kind of pine tree partially over my pond and I can sit here and watch the brown dead debris fall in with a heavy wind. Within minutes anything on the surface is pulled into the skimmer. However, I'm noticing the fish finding their way in there. I wouldn't say they are getting sucked in they're actually just swimming in to see what's in there and then wind up getting stuck behind the wier door.

I thought maybe wide wire mesh screen might be a good option at least to prevent the fish from going in but it would probably prevent larger debris as well. I'm sure once the fish get bigger it won't be a problem but everyday when I wake up I'm taking two or three fish out of the skimmer. Any ideas what to do?
 

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It is their party room! They need to check it out see if there are good digs in there.
 
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It is their party room! They need to check it out see if there are good digs in there.
but they are so small that the pressure from the pump pulling the water has them swimming super hard. Poor little guys
 

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Years ago I put a screen across my skimmer, around 6 inches or so out. Shaped in a curve. At that time my fish were all small. Now I have the skimmer dialed down for draw as the huge maple tree died that was dropping everything.
Anyways that screen collected the leaves etc the skimmer was pulling in, I just would clean it now and then. No fish got pulled in after I did that.
 
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we had some very serious rain this evening and unfortunately a lot of the surrounding dirt overflowed into the pond. I have the filter pad in the skimmer along with two box filters on the floor with Filter pads in them as well. I hope it clears up
 

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It'll clear up. And that dirt isn't necessarily a bad thing in the pond. When you get more plants growing you'll see that they have a way of pulling that dirt toward themselves and forming root balls. I plant all my pond plants bare root and when I go to thin or groom, they will all appear as if they were planted in dirt.

You do want to make sure you aren't getting constant run off into the pond though, as that's going to get old fast. More plants around the edge will help to stop any erosion.
 
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It'll clear up. And that dirt isn't necessarily a bad thing in the pond. When you get more plants growing you'll see that they have a way of pulling that dirt toward themselves and forming root balls. I plant all my pond plants bare root and when I go to thin or groom, they will all appear as if they were planted in dirt.

You do want to make sure you aren't getting constant run off into the pond though, as that's going to get old fast. More plants around the edge will help to stop any erosion.

Im going to have dig down a little bit around the outerpermiter a little more to avoid this happening again. I did create a slight berm but maybe it wasnt high enough. Or maybe it is and the water came from behind the waterfall area which is slightly elevated compared to the pond. Not really sure how to fix that.

Hard to tell how much dirt actually made its way into the water though. Just have to wait and let it settle to the bottom.
 
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Pond is slowly clearing. I have to guess that most of the sediment is being filtered and accumulating on the numerous filter pads and not exactly settling on the floor. Since I am in the process of cycling the pond, is it best to leave the filter material alone or clean off all the dirt? The skimmer and 2 box filters have coarse and fine pads while the waterfall only has a coarse pad and bioballs.

I'm starting to the see the liner change to a brownish color with whatever is adhering/growing on it.
 

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Need a little help here. Went to a water garden center and picked up these 3 plants. They suggested I leave them in the pots with the soil already in there. I added some pea gravel on top myself (is that ok?). They suggested to place in the pond anywhere from 1 to 3 inches below the water surface. I'm having a real hard time placing them without having to reposition many large rocks.

Are there any other options here?

Also have a few water lettuce floating around
 

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Looks fine to me but you do not have to leave those in a pot. You can take them out at some point and just let them grow between the rocks or put them in bigger pots of just clay kitty litter on the bottom of your pond. You can raise them up from the bottom of the pond too if you need to on a plastic crate or pot/flat rocks or whatever works. Just make sure they are stable as when they get bigger if the pots aren't stable the wind can blow them over. Heavy rocks inside the pot can help keep them in place or bricks.
 
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Like @j.w said, those can definitely come out of the pots and be planted directly in the pond. They will do more for filtering your pond when the roots are allowed direct contact with the water. The spots where you have them are fine - fill the space with gravel or small rocks to stabilize them until they get growing and you'll have a much more natural look. The only plants I keep contained are lilies and lotuses - everything else free ranges in the pond.

Watch your horsetail rush - it likes to jump ship and grow outside of the pond. It spreads hard and fast! It's easy to control in the pond; more challenging in the yard!
 
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Finished of the surrounding area with rock work. I trenched the front and left perimeter roughly 2 inches and filled with pea gravel so hopefully that's enough to prevent any water from coming in during a heavy storm.

On the right right side you can see the ground is slightly higher and pitched towards the pond. When i started to dig I noticed mud along the edge on the liner so this area is likely where the water came Into the pond. Without trying to grade a huge area, I dug about 6-8" along the right side all the way to the patio walkway and filled with pea gravel and rock. I tried to create a slight berm under the liner edge and I hope this will drain any heavy rain water to the patio instead of the pond. Time will tell.

Question, I need to add about an 1" of water which is probably 50-75 gallons I'm guessing. Will this small amount be ok to add directly from the hose? Can I add the water followed by Prime?
 

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I tried to create a slight berm under the liner edge and I hope this will drain any heavy rain water to the patio instead of the pond. Time will tell.
That should help.
I raised the ground by around 1-2 inches on the up side of my pond. I have nothing but sloping down to the pond.
That slight raise has kept the yard run off out of the pond.

I used to go out during down pours and watch the water flow, mark problem areas and fix them.
 
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I used to go out during down pours and watch the water flow, mark problem areas and fix them.
It's a good idea for even established ponds to check on water flow during heavy rains. We had iris borers get into our yellow flag iris, so I had to pull them up - they were growing both in and out of the pond, so the ones in the pond are fine. The ones outside the pond were dead. The first heavy rainfall after that we noticed we had a murky pond - removing the irises had left a small area that was prone to runoff. Easy fix, next heavy rain - no more runoff.

I wasn't all that sad about my irises by the way - they needed thinning and the borers made my job easy!
 

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It's a good idea for even established ponds to check on water flow during heavy rains.
As long as no lightening! Then I stay in, no umbrella holding wandering the yard.
 
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