What does your pond look like ... Today?

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    brokensword Not all those who wander are lost

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    jw; does that palm I'm seeing actually survive freezing temps? If so, what kind is it? Didn't think palms were that hardy...might have to see about one for my yard!

    So, memories of Michigan been satiated now? Are you ready to go back to reporting r**in???

    Michael
     
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    j.w I Love my Goldies

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    Yes it makes it through our freezes. It is a Chinese Windmill Palm. Not sure how cold it can go tho. It gets lots colder in Michigan then here and for longer periods. I started 3 from seeds many yrs ago and two died after I put them out in the ground. They were only a couple feet tall when they died and it was in the winter. I was covering them in the Winter as when young they need to become well established before they can survive the cold. Maybe if started by seed outside they would be more hardy.
    Here is an article that might help you:
    http://botanyboy.org/the-windmill-palm-trachycarpus-fortunei-king-of-the-cold-hardy-palms/

    And no I am never ready to go back to rain. Michigan winters are way colder than here. I do not miss Michigan winters or Summers. I'm just fine here and perhaps we will do more traveling to warmer climates in Winters to come. We need a new truck and a 5th wheel.
     
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    JBtheExplorer Native Gardener

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    A little bit of plant growth in the bog. Nothing significant, but it's still nice to see, even though it's only February.

    This is Bottle Gentian. I had it in my native garden last year but moved it over to my bog in Autumn, since I only had two plants and they were going to be out-competed by other, larger species in my native garden. Hopefully it'll work in my bog. Looks like it made it just fine through winter.


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    Patfish Ignore the mask and cape

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    Now I want a palm tree!
    How old is the one in the picture?
    How tall is it?
    You started it from seeed?
    I see seeds on ebay for $1.90 and free shipping
     
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    brokensword Not all those who wander are lost

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    Pat; read the link jw posted; I think anything less than zone 7 is iffy re keeping these alive. It's the prolonged cold, not just cold, that does them in. I've decided to forego a palm as I'm in zone 5, which they didn't even give an honorable mention. Still, if you try, I'll be keeping tabs on your progress to see if it makes it through a zone 6 winter.
     
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    j.w I Love my Goldies

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    It's prolly about 8 or 9 yrs old if you count when 1st put seeds in pots and about 6ft tall. Yep I went to our Zoo here in Seattle one year in early Spring and picked up a few and planted them in pots in my greenhouse. 3 sprouted after many months, maybe even a year. I should have scarified them and they would have sprouted sooner I found out later. Oh well. When they got about a foot tall I transplanted them outside one Spring. We had a winter a couple years after I planted them that killed two of them. Thankfully one made it and is doing great now.
    Here are some growth photos from when 1st planted till now.
    You will need fresh seeds and hope they are fertile.
    Other wise buy them at already grown plants somewhere online. Might not be cheap tho.
    Taken in August 2011
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    Taken in July 2012
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    Taken Aug 2013
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    Taken August 2014
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    Taken March 2015
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    Taken August 2015
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    Taken Dec 2016
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    Taken May 2017
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    And this Winter February 2018
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    sissy sissy

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    I have the same looking palm that is cold hardy .I have 2 of them .It gets black seeds one it that fall to the ground and make babies 100_8235.JPG 100_8458.JPG
     
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    j.w I Love my Goldies

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    Again w/more snow last night...................I thought all was lost but alas I get another winter wonderland walk in today!
    Need lots of exercise now to work off all that crab I ate last night :smuggrin:

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    sissy sissy

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    JW does your palm get black seeds on it that drop to the ground and grow .I have tried picking the seeds but they won't grow but if they drop to the ground they grow
     
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    j.w I Love my Goldies

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    My palm is too young yet to get seeds. I only have one palm and I hear you need a male and a female plant to get fertile seeds. Sometimes they say they will turn into a hermaphrodite plant that will self pollinate but that is rare. If you scarify the seeds before you plant them they might grow in a pot. Mine took forever when I grew them in a pot cuz I did not do that. If they grow when on the ground why not just let them and then pluck them up if you want to move them?
     
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    sissy sissy

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    I guess I must have a male and female but funny they both get seeds .I wonder if the yuccas may help with that ,not sure but looked and I have several babies coming up now and threw mulch around them so they stay warm .Once spring gets here I will dig them up and pot them to give them away
     
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    Gemma

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    My mom just sent me palm seeds she got from hers but I really doubt a palm can survive a winter like we are having this year....could it live in a pot inside a permanent greenhouse?
     
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    Gemma

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    My pond is completely ice free and running, all fish seem active going after the algae on the walls
    I hope the worst of the winter is behind us.
     
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    j.w I Love my Goldies

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    For awhile it could live in a green house till it busts outta the pot. Then maybe it would be large enough to put outside and survive w/coverings during really bad cold.

    Just found this on the net:

    The Windmill Palm (trachycarpus fortunei)

    Another popular choice, this palm and its cultivars (several other varieties have been introduced as even hardier) are known to be the hardiest palm trees in the world. Yes, an actual palm tree. Well, that word excited me. If the tree were to be a success in your Zone 5-7 garden it would never fail to impress and provide endless bragging rights for you. When purchased young, they make for attractive tropical-looking shrubs, but if you really wanted to take the plunge and buy a specimen so mature that it has developed a visible trunk, for most climates north of southern New Jersey there will be unfortunate damage to the tree that will be apparent during the summer. A possible exception may be a flawless micro-climate along with protection that would essentially add another zone of warmth and a shield against damaging arctic blast winds. Windmill palms in tree form may be for the intensive palm enthusiast who is willing to invest time and money in the endeavor, but they still have use as great looking under story shrubs for causal gardeners with their gorgeous palm palmate leaves that cannot be replicated with true north hardy plants.

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    Someone else posted this:

    I grow Trachycarpus fortunei in England, and they are also known to grow in Manhattan, though I'm sure these 2 places are warmer in winter than Iowa.

    There is hope for you, as you can protect your palm in winter time, either keeping it potted, and then moving it to a sheltered spot, or inside with good levels of sunlight.

    The other option used by many growers of tender plants is to construct a protective enclosure around your palm. This could be made from wooden posts, surrounded with plastic, and then filled with straw/dried leaves. You can also add some garden fleece over your palm, which keeps the temperature below a few degrees warmer, but allows light and moisture to pass through. As your palm matures it will get somewhat hardier, but it is important to protect its growing point, as it grows from this single point - this is where you could pack some more protection. Otherwise, you could add some old carpet etc, on really freezing nights, to give extra protection, or form some type of tent over it.
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    Too much work in my opinion!
    So it sounds like there will be so much ugly damage to them by planting them outdoors in a very cold climate that it might not be worth it unless you do a lot of work to protect them.
     
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    I'm a newcomer to these forums. First posted https://www.gardenpondforum.com/threads/looking-for-help-with-filtration.22614/#post-368726 a few weeks back and some kind folk gave me some very useful hints. We have a communal pond which we neglected for a number of years, so I'll post some before and after pictures showing what a few people can do over a few weekends to remove an enormous amount of weed.
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    Pretty clear that we needed to do something, right?
    A view of some of the pond and the dredged weed on day 1 of the clearance.
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    Yesterday the pond looked like this:
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    One final view before I fill the page:
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    (I know the thread says "today" but there is 6 inches of snow today and no sunshine)
     
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    j.w I Love my Goldies

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    Looks good what you've done so far to clean it up!


    And upload_2018-3-3_12-56-50.gif @Lakeside Boy that is a big huge Willow tree right in the middle. I know how much of a mess they can create but they are so pretty and love sucking up water.
     
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    brokensword Not all those who wander are lost

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    Jim; sure looks like you folks did a lot of work and a great job! I'd be really curious to see how this summer's growing season hits you. I hope it doesn't grow back that much but I have my doubts. I do think you're probably going to need regular maintenance, but hopefully your people are all onboard and ready. This winter, we finally got enough help (and stable ice for a few weeks) to go cut down our own problematic plants, the cattails. Looks a lot better and like your situation, will be curious to see how much grows back.

    When the weather warms and you get more chance to get out and about, please post your progress. As I said, not a pond pic we don't like here!

    Michael
     
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    Tula

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    Wow @Lakeside that's amazing what you all accomplished working together !
     
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    addy1 water gardener / gold fish and shubunkins Moderator

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    Looking good! I assume those are statues of herons? Look neat in the water.
     
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